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Dallas Top Ten Top Ten

Ome

Admin Emeritus
After a week of votes

13 voted on 12 Cliff-hangers

Here’s the results.​





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1. End Game = 105

2. A House Divided = 103

3. Swan Song = 92

4. Ewing Inferno = 87

5. Blast From the Past = 85

6. Ewing-Gate = 51

7. Fall of the House of Ewing = 48

8. John Ewing III: Part 2 = 44

9. Goodbye, Cliff Barnes = 42

10. Barbeque = 32

11. The Fat Lady Singeth = 22

12. Reel Life / Conundrum, Part II = 2
 

Ome

Admin Emeritus
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If anyone needs to amend their top ten, then please tag me (@Ome) in a post and I will amend your list. Coming back and posting another list just complicates it when I start to tally them up.

Thanks.

Totals Saturday 19th November
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Victoriafan3

Telly Talk Addict
After a week of votes

13 voted on 38 recurring characters in one season only.

Here’s the results.​





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1. End Game = 105

2. A House Divided = 103

3. Swan Song = 92

4. Ewing Inferno = 87

5. Blast From the Past = 85

6. Ewing-Gate = 51

7. Fall of the House of Ewing = 48

8. John Ewing III: Part 2 = 44

9. Goodbye, Cliff Barnes = 42

10. Barbeque = 32

11. The Fat Lady Singeth = 22

12. Reel Life / Conundrum, Part II = 2
Glad swan song got higher up this time. Thanks for doing this. It's fun :)
 

Kenny Coyote

Telly Talk Star
After a week of votes

13 voted on 38 recurring characters in one season only.

Here’s the results.​





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1. End Game = 105

2. A House Divided = 103

3. Swan Song = 92

4. Ewing Inferno = 87

5. Blast From the Past = 85

6. Ewing-Gate = 51

7. Fall of the House of Ewing = 48

8. John Ewing III: Part 2 = 44

9. Goodbye, Cliff Barnes = 42

10. Barbeque = 32

11. The Fat Lady Singeth = 22

12. Reel Life / Conundrum, Part II = 2

My comments on results: House Divided should have won because it led to the record that the Who Shot JR episode set very early into the next season. There was absolutely no cliffhanger ending that had people talking anywhere near as much as "Who Shot JR." It's not even close, speaking strictly from an objective position.

It was the first time that any Ewing had ever been shot to made a cliffhanger and what made it so intriguing is there were practically a dozen people who might have been the shooter because SO MANY people were furious at JR at that particular time. No Dallas cliffhanger ever managed to draw the amount of viewers the following season for the episode which showed the resolution of the suspenseful ending of the previous season.

END GAME was a fine ending but it was, for one thing, a bit derivative of A HOUSE DIVIDED - a season ending at night in the Ewing Oil office with the last Ewing son working that night the only one there besides the shoot of course. Both cliffhangers involved the possiblity that we had just seen a Ewing son killed. Both resulted in situations where the victim might have a permanent handicap - paralysis for JR and blindness for Bobby so I placed it 4th for being good but still very derivative.

THE 3RD FAVORITE - SWAN SONG - was wasted because it (Bobby being run over and killed) turned out to be just a dream. For that reason I didn't place it quite so high (I placed it 6th).

After HOUSE DIVIDED, my second place choice was EWING INFERNO. I'm surprised it didn't rate higher. It was for one thing, the ending of very possibly the best overall season Dallas ever had, although I realize that's subjective. But a lot of people who post here have said that season was their favorite. It was shocking to see such unbelievable intensity of hatred in Ray that he was literally trying to kill his own brother! He fortunately couldn't get the job done, and once JR hit Ray hard enough to make him lose consciousness for a few seconds, JR was free and could have run outside but despite being known as the most talked about TV villain in the world, a character many felt had no redeeming qualities, JR immediately started climbing the burning staircase so that he might rescue his son and his wife even though his wife despised him at that particular time. Then when we saw JR get git by a falling beam and be apparently knocked out with flames surrounding him, the situation looked like an impossible one to make it out of without one or more Ewing deaths.
 
My comments on results: House Divided should have won because it led to the record that the Who Shot JR episode set very early into the next season. There was absolutely no cliffhanger ending that had people talking anywhere near as much as "Who Shot JR." It's not even close, speaking strictly from an objective position.

Totally agree, nothing else came close or generated so much press and publicity as the shooting of JR, not just for Dallas but for any TV show - Dallas was smokin hot in the summer of 1980, and it was great lol
 

Toni

Maximum Member
My Top Ten:

1- Jeremy Wendell
2- Cliff Barnes
3- Carter McKay
4- Pamela Ewing
5- Vaughn Leland
6- Kristin Shepard
7- Angelica Nero
8- LeeAnn de la Vega
9- Rebecca Wentworth
10- Sue Ellen Ewing
 

Karin

Moderator
Staff Member
1. Cliff Barnes
2. Digger Barnes
3. Jeremy Wendell
4. Carter McKay
5. Rebecca Wentworth
6. BD Calhoun
7. Stephanie Rogers
8. Vaughn Leland
9. Hillary Taylor
10. LeeAnn de la Vega
 

Presea

Telly Talk Addict
My comments on results: House Divided should have won because it led to the record that the Who Shot JR episode set very early into the next season. There was absolutely no cliffhanger ending that had people talking anywhere near as much as "Who Shot JR." It's not even close, speaking strictly from an objective position.

It was the first time that any Ewing had ever been shot to made a cliffhanger and what made it so intriguing is there were practically a dozen people who might have been the shooter because SO MANY people were furious at JR at that particular time. No Dallas cliffhanger ever managed to draw the amount of viewers the following season for the episode which showed the resolution of the suspenseful ending of the previous season.

END GAME was a fine ending but it was, for one thing, a bit derivative of A HOUSE DIVIDED - a season ending at night in the Ewing Oil office with the last Ewing son working that night the only one there besides the shoot of course. Both cliffhangers involved the possiblity that we had just seen a Ewing son killed. Both resulted in situations where the victim might have a permanent handicap - paralysis for JR and blindness for Bobby so I placed it 4th for being good but still very derivative.

THE 3RD FAVORITE - SWAN SONG - was wasted because it (Bobby being run over and killed) turned out to be just a dream. For that reason I didn't place it quite so high (I placed it 6th).

After HOUSE DIVIDED, my second place choice was EWING INFERNO. I'm surprised it didn't rate higher. It was for one thing, the ending of very possibly the best overall season Dallas ever had, although I realize that's subjective. But a lot of people who post here have said that season was their favorite. It was shocking to see such unbelievable intensity of hatred in Ray that he was literally trying to kill his own brother! He fortunately couldn't get the job done, and once JR hit Ray hard enough to make him lose consciousness for a few seconds, JR was free and could have run outside but despite being known as the most talked about TV villain in the world, a character many felt had no redeeming qualities, JR immediately started climbing the burning staircase so that he might rescue his son and his wife even though his wife despised him at that particular time. Then when we saw JR get git by a falling beam and be apparently knocked out with flames surrounding him, the situation looked like an impossible one to make it out of without one or more Ewing deaths.
I have to admit that I am surprised that A House Divided didn't win. Since it was the first "who shot" scenario that I saw, it stuck with me more. It had a nice, eerie touch to it with JR wandering around the dark office and calling out in confusion right before he got shot. Endgame was great because it had more of a surprise element to it because I was not expecting Bobby to fall out of that chair! But in the end, A House Divided was more memorable for me since it was the first who dunnit?, and I had a harder time guessing who the shooter might be.
 

Presea

Telly Talk Addict
Up Next


The Ewing Adversary

List your top ten favourite Ewing Adversaries


If anyone needs to amend their top ten, then please tag me (@Ome) in a post and I will amend your list. Coming back and posting another list just complicates it when I start to tally them up.

Thanks.

Totals Saturday 19th November
​
Ome, would Katherine be considered a Ewing adversary?
 

Kenny Coyote

Telly Talk Star
The Ewing Adversary

1. Cliff Barnes
2. Jeremy Wendell
3. Rebecca Wentworth
4. Digger Barnes (preferred the first actor to play Digger)
5. Katherine Wentworth
6. Vaughan Leland
7. Michelle Stevens
8. Carter McKay
9. Pamela Ewing
10. Hillary Taylor
 
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  1. Cliff Barnes
  2. Valene Ewing
  3. Digger Barnes
  4. Pamela Ewing
  5. Gary Ewing*
  6. Jeb Ames
  7. Luther Frick
  8. Vaughan Leland
  9. Jeremy Wendell
  10. Willie Joe Garr

*I know Gary is a true Ewing, but his fractious relationship with Jock, Lucy and especially JR puts him in the running.
 

Sarah

Moderator Emerita
1. Cliff
2. Digger
3. Wendell
4. Dusty Farlow
5. Katherine Wentworth
6. BD Calhoun
7. Carter McKay
8. Rebecca Wentworth
9. Mrs Scottfield
10. Hillary Taylor

I don't get naming Sue Ellen and Pam, so I haven't added them.
 

Kenny Coyote

Telly Talk Star
  1. Cliff Barnes
  2. Valene Ewing
  3. Digger Barnes
  4. Pamela Ewing
  5. Gary Ewing*
  6. Jeb Ames
  7. Luther Frick
  8. Vaughan Leland
  9. Jeremy Wendell
  10. Willie Joe Garr
*I know Gary is a true Ewing, but his fractious relationship with Jock, Lucy and especially JR puts him in the running.
Mel, it's your list so I don't want to sound like I'm telling you what to do, but just consider this: Luther Fricke and Peyton Allen (the younger man he was with) showed up at Southfork planning to rape 2 Ewing women. But when Luther heard his pal Peyton Allen say that his wife often cheated on Luther, just going out drinking and looking for a good time, Luther said he couldn't do what he had planned to do because after hearing his wife was to blame changed everything. But his friend Peyton Allen STILL wanted to rape Lucy because as he said, he hadn't got what he come for. he wasn't there for "justice" as Luther was (Luther's twisted idea of justice). Peyton Allen was just there because he wanted to rape a Ewing woman no matter what. So I think Peyton Allen should be on the list if Luther is gonna be because Peyton ended up beignets worse of the two.

I also have a question for everyone who voted for Pamela as a Ewing adversary. I'm curious: Do you consider Pam a Ewing adversary just when she and Bobby were separated or divorced, or do you consider her a Ewing adversary 100% of the time?
 
I think Peyton Allen should be on the list if Luther is gonna be because Peyton ended up beignets worse of the two.

If we're voting on actions alone, my list would look very different.

But I can't even picture Peyton. Brian Dennehy brought a great deal of intensity to that role and I think he was very memorable. So he spoke to me more than Peyton did.

It's a bit like the cliffhangers. If we're doing it scientifically, then A House Divided should have had it.

But there are all kinds of variables: like how old someone was when they saw an episode; at what point someone started watching; how it was filmed; what the music score was like. You name it. Ultimately, it's all about whether each of those episodes or characters resonates with the individual.

I also have a question for everyone who voted for Pamela as a Ewing adversary. I'm curious: Do you consider Pam a Ewing adversary just when she and Bobby were separated or divorced, or do you consider her a Ewing adversary 100% of the time?

Pam is on my list because of the threat and conflict that her presence represented to the majority of the Ewing family at the beginning of the show. Of course, the conflict with JR continued, and I could have had a whole list of people who crossed swords with JR only. But Pam's presence also threatened Jock, Ellie and Lucy, as well as extended family members like Sue Ellen.
 

Ome

Admin Emeritus
Ultimately, it's all about whether each of those episodes or characters resonates with the individual.

Well, that's the idea I thought we were going with when ranking our favourites.


If we're doing it scientifically, then A House Divided should have had it.


A House Divided is a great example.

This wasn't high on my list because I don't rate it as a personal favourite. I don't care how much media attention it got, I don't care if it was the very first whodunit because I'm not ranking my favourites on what I believe the media (or any other person/organisation) think I should rate them.


End Game ranked much higher because of how much it shocked me. I remember thinking what a horrible scene to watch because it should have been JR in that chair. I thought Bobby was going to die. I then recall (a few weeks after) how I speculated that maybe Katherine wanted Bobby dead and it was planned that way. That itself brought all kinds of new emotions my way, almost like it was the genius stroke.




However if people prefer to vote on how they think the media saw it, then who am I to question them? :D
 
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