Was Ray Really Likable?

Mustard

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Karin Schill said:
Well I am sure Gary must have told his mother about his kids at some point. I mean he and Val got remarried in april 1991 so if they hadn't told his family about the kids before then they must have at that point. But yeah it's a shame that we never saw Miss Ellie meet her grandkids. She totally should have crossed over to KL at some point. But it's also possible they would have told Miss Ellie about it after the kids found out, which was in march 1990.
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The best time for Miss Ellie in Knots Landing would have been early Season 7, after Bobby had died on Dallas. But as Barbara Bel Geddes had just returned to Dallas at the time, and rather controversially with the whole Donna Reed lawsuit that followed, it perhaps wasn't politically convenient for a character crossover at that moment.
 
Toni

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BBG should have crossover-ed to "Knots" while Donna Reed was replacing her on "Dallas" (Season 6 of Knots). So many things would have become understandable...

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Gary: Welcome to my show Mama!
Miss Ellie; Thank you son. But I only accepted if I could curse... Oh look Gaaaary,
who is that frekking beech in the Travilla gown?
Gary: You mean Abby or Ruth Galbitchston, Greg´s Mama?


Wouldn´t it have been fascinating to have both stars together in at least one scene ?
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Luke_Krebbs_Ewing

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darkshadows38

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Ray as it was said on here already after he stopped hanging out with JR seemed like a good guy with a good heart, but he had trouble huge trouble with having low self esteem which was never dealt with on the show as far as i know. hearing him say to Donna or really anyone he was with i dunno why you are with me i'm not worth it really got tiring to say the least. not only to the audience but to the women the writers put him with as well Him and Donna were a good match but the writers i dunno what they were smoking i want some of what it was it had to be some good shit too cause all they did was have him complain i'm not worth the time of day for you or something like that. when he never learned that if you do that it's gonna drive her away not towards you plus he also at times couldn't keep it in his pants either.

how hard is it ya know? it's really easy not to cheat at least for me it is. While he doesn't have the body count in a manner of speaking that JR has during the entire run of the show. i wonder how many women JR did end up sleeping with anyone ever do an actual count? even Hagman wanted to know that as well when he was alive.

Ray at times did cheat as well
 
Snarky Oracle!

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Toni said:

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Pitt´s reaction when he´s reminded that he was on "Dallas"...​
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Actually, that kind of is how Pitt reacted. I recall a group interview with the cast of the OCEANS 11 remake (although it was much better than the original film) and George Clooney good-naturedly teased Brad about having been on DALLAS, and Pitt obviously resented the comment and seemed embarrassed.
 
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Ray slept with all the main female characters: Lucy, Sue Ellen, Donna, Jenna, and (maybe) Pam when they were dating. That's an accomplishment fkr him in that, with the exception of Sue Ellen, those women wouldn't let JR touch them with an 10 foot pole. That's something that I think particularly galls JR in the cases of Pam and Donna.
JR had many more than Ray, but he was the only one to have "cross over" sex since he slept with Abby over on Knots Landing. Since KL went into its own universe after Bobby died, one could argue JR had sex across the multiverse. I hope JR makes a cameo in the upcoming Dr. Strange movie.
 
Taylor Bennett Jr.

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Snarky Oracle said:
Actually, that kind of is how Pitt reacted. I recall a group interview with the cast of the OCEANS 11 remake (although it was much better than the original film) and George Clooney good-naturedly teased Brad about having been on DALLAS, and Pitt obviously resented the comment and seemed embarrassed.
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Brad's just jealous he didn't get to marry Rita Briggs!

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(a young George seen above looking like the love child Sue Ellen and Nicholas Pierce never had)
 
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KayLloyd

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Ray struggled with his moral compass, especially in the early days, but he was a good decent man who tried to do his best. I thought his alternate "If JR. had never been born"universe story in Conundrum was the only one that was accurately written.
 
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Ollie james

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U wasn't mad about the character of Ray I think it could have been more beneficial to the show had he been killed off rather than Bobby at that time. Would have spared us the awful Ray and jenna pairing of later years. Bobby and Donna getting together and keeping Susan Howard in the show could have been far more interesting and again spared us April and her awful sister in later years. The tnt reboot would have been all the stronger with Donna as the matriarch of southfork as Mrs Ewing but that's just my opinion we all have our favourites.
 
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Ollie james said:
U wasn't mad about the character of Ray I think it could have been more beneficial to the show had he been killed off rather than Bobby at that time. Would have spared us the awful Ray and jenna pairing of later years. Bobby and Donna getting together and keeping Susan Howard in the show could have been far more interesting and again spared us April and her awful sister in later years. The tnt reboot would have been all the stronger with Donna as the matriarch of southfork as Mrs Ewing but that's just my opinion we all have our favourites.
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I like your idea, maybe it would be a good storyline in an alt Dallas universe.
May suggest an additional storyline where Bobby and Pam split, Bobby and Donna get together, Ray and Pam reunite, team with Cliff,
vow to bring down Ewing Oil, JR takes over West Star, plays both sides against each other
 
Taylor Bennett Jr.

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Ollie james said:
U wasn't mad about the character of Ray I think it could have been more beneficial to the show had he been killed off rather than Bobby at that time. Would have spared us the awful Ray and jenna pairing of later years. Bobby and Donna getting together and keeping Susan Howard in the show could have been far more interesting and again spared us April and her awful sister in later years. The tnt reboot would have been all the stronger with Donna as the matriarch of southfork as Mrs Ewing but that's just my opinion we all have our favourites.
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instead of Katherine mowing Bobby down in Pam’s driveway they could have had a runaway bull gore a shirtless Ray as he slid open the door, beer in hand, to go do some yardwork
 
Luke_Krebbs_Ewing

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Snarky Oracle said:
Actually, that kind of is how Pitt reacted. I recall a group interview with the cast of the OCEANS 11 remake (although it was much better than the original film) and George Clooney good-naturedly teased Brad about having been on DALLAS, and Pitt obviously resented the comment and seemed embarrassed.
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Brad should've defended Dallas. After all it gave him a decent acting break and it was still fairly popular when he was in it. :)
 
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