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Jill's return isn't exactly the change I would have wanted to see behind the scenes, but at least something's happening. And most importantly, can it get any worse? At least Y&R is back to where it was before the maze and no storyline bothers me anymore.

I actually think the maze were the worst weeks Y&R has ever had. There have certainly been worse storylines, like when Sheila's never-before-mentioned sister had surgery to transform her into Lauren, and at the same time, Patty looked like Emily—all of that was pretty bizarre, but at least there were other storylines back then. This summer, there was nothing but the maze. But thankfully, that's finally behind us.

I think Cole and Damian's deaths were handled appropriately, while Chance's was downplayed a bit. Chance's death should have been a huge issue, but instead, the grief was kept to a minimum.

I wonder if the budget was cut further. It's obvious that Amanda was traded for Summer budget-wise, but Chance, Cole, and Damian's salaries couldn't all have been used for Cane, could they? I suspect some of the money went towards the French set and Carter's short-term stint, but there should still be money left over with three actors fired. If Billy Flynn costs so much, I get why he took the job and why the writers give him so much material, since he's supposed to work for his money.
 

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Has the character of Jill been gone for a while? I'd love to see Y&R turned on its head and have Brenda Dickson return as Jill. And the legacy character needs to be seen and heard.
By the name Jill, I meant producer Jill Farren Phelps, who's returning to Y&R, but as for the character Jill, I wonder why she's even brought back for cameos. Every time, she makes a big entrance with huge announcements, usually via FaceTime, it doesn't really lead to anything.

Without Chance, there's no police at all on the show anymore. I still remember when there was a whole set for the police with Paul as the chief, usually two detectives, and Kevin as the computer expert. It's strange that they decided to completely do away with the police; instead, there are only business deals. I think the Ashland story was pretty good, especially thanks to his chemistry with Victoria, while Tucker's deals and threats were getting boring, but they were still good compared to Cane's actions.

I have to admit, I never really understood when people say that Amelia Heinle is still no Victoria to them, but now I can relate, because I feel the same way about Billy. Jason Thompson has been around for years, but I still don't see him as Billy.
 

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as for the character Jill, I wonder why she's even brought back for cameos. Every time, she makes a big entrance with huge announcements, usually via FaceTime, it doesn't really lead to anything.
With Jess Walton happily living far from California, I think this "facetime" Jill is the only Jill we will get. I think Y&R has done this thing with Walton as an experiment to see if they (and other soaps) might be able to build on it and expand their scope beyond the usual "actor on a set" production model. They may feel differently, but to me it lacks the depth and "watchability" that comes from actors being face to face and reacting to one another in a scene. Jill, one of the longest-running, complicated characters in soaps seems reduced to a talking head in a box.
 

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Now that the Emmys are over, how long will Josh Griffith keep his job? For weeks, Y&R has been behind B&B in the important women 18-49 ratings and overall is only in the middle of the pack among all daytime shows, currently in 8th place, up from 10th place the week before. It's not good that both later Today hours are now ahead of Y&R in the women 18-49 ratings.

Josh Griffith is doing everything wrong these days when it comes to introducing well-known soap faces. Tamara Braun and Matt Cohen feel like DOA because they're immediately overused. When lesser-known actors join, less effort is put into them, and after a few months, it actually works, as with Audra and Holden and you start to like these characters.

Getting upset about Cane's storyline is pointless, but I have to say that I didn't expect a completely bad AI storyline on top of everything else. Of course, Cane also plays into the man-pain cliché that Y&R likes to play on. Something I really don't like about Y&R is when wealthy, white, straight men of a certain age wallow in self-pity. We've seen this for years, and it seems it won't stop as long as Josh Griffith is in charge.
 

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Until recently Josh Griffith had been sole Head Writer and Executive Producer, two jobs historically done by two separate people. About a month ago Y&R promoted Sally McDonald to co-Executive Producer, which hints that perhaps CBS wants someone else involved in day-to-day operations. Soap Fandom was rocked (horrified!) to learn that former EP and all-around "Dragon Lady" Jill Farren Phelps had also been hired months earlier in a lower-level producer role.

Of course it might be as simple as Griffith telling his bosses he needs someone else to help juggle all his duties, not the network or Sony ordering him to delegate major decisions to someone else. If they wanted to facilitate major changes to the show's direction, they would have forced a Co-Head Writer on him rather than a Co-EP.
 

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With Jess Walton happily living far from California, I think this "facetime" Jill is the only Jill we will get. I think Y&R has done this thing with Walton as an experiment to see if they (and other soaps) might be able to build on it and expand their scope beyond the usual "actor on a set" production model. They may feel differently, but to me it lacks the depth and "watchability" that comes from actors being face to face and reacting to one another in a scene. Jill, one of the longest-running, complicated characters in soaps seems reduced to a talking head in a box.

It’s very odd to say the least and I have to agree. “Jill in the Box” just doesn’t work for me. The scenes lose something and ultimately don’t mean as much when the character isn’t present. I guess it’s going to become the norm now though moving forward. I can see it being used more as some of these actors get older.
 

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Ironic that Jess Walton actually came to LA to tape 'in person' on Y&R after I wrote that post. Of course, they had to offer her a real storyline to lure her back, not some "holds Billy's hand and tells him he's not a big fat loser despite all evidence to the contrary" nonsense like she'd been doing.
 

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Ironic that Jess Walton actually came to LA to tape 'in person' on Y&R after I wrote that post. Of course, they had to offer her a real storyline to lure her back, not some "holds Billy's hand and tells him he's not a big fat loser despite all evidence to the contrary" nonsense like she'd been doing.
I didn't know that Jill would be making a personal appearance, so I was shocked that after seeing her via FaceTime as usual, we suddenly saw her sitting at her desk. This was a bigger surprise than some of the supposed to be great twists of the past few months. But Jill once again had nothing particularly interesting to do in town. Of course, it was about Billy, but it was really about Cane. It felt like she was only brought in so she could say again and again (and again) what a great person Cane is and that he had no part in Chance's death. I feel like the more effort the writers put into making the audience love Cane, the more it backfires because it's so transparent.

It's nice to have Sharon doing something again. Maybe the Noah story will be more interesting than expected, because my expectations for Y&R are lower than for any other soap right now.
 

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Is it brave or stupid for Y&R to bring four new actors into the show within just a few weeks, and was any of them really necessary? That a nuNoah would eventually appear is understandable, but does he really have to have sex with the woman who played his mother on Days on Our Lives not too long ago?

The fact that in 2023 Cameron returned from the dead to terrorize Sharon was a cool psycho story, mainly because the OG Cameron was back. What worked well once (Sharon has a stalker) is being repeated, and this time with a recast. I don't really like Roger Howarth as nuMatt. The only good thing in this plot is, unlike the introduction for nuCane, the veterans don't seem clueless and look bad because of it; right now they know exactly what's going on and are smart (for soap standards).

I'm not a fan of Tamara Braun, but she really does her best to make a new character, whose only ties are to two brand-new recasts, not seem completely uninteresting.

Otherwise, Christine and Danny's wedding was beautiful, but that sex scene between Phyllis and Cane was anything but beautiful to watch.
 
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