Francesca Colby, and why this turned out to be the perfect miscast.

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A wild Mandy Winger appears!
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The sad thing is that Mandy actually probably did love JR more than Sue Ellen did. Sue Ellen and JR actually seemed to seek pleasure from tormenting each other and causing deep psychological wounding to one another. After a certain point Sue Ellen and JR just remained married to one another so as to deprive each other of what they really wanted in life. I don't think Mandy even comes close to the actual slut mark as Frankie does. Mandy was not the pursuer in the situation and was somehow influenced by JR's bullshit. From what I remember at that time, and forgive me it's been years since I watched Dallas, Sue Ellen was a fountain of Bile and JR was poking her with a thorny stick.
 

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Then she should know better than to ambush Adrienne with her preposterous plan. She was just as bad as Connie.
My God, what a bunch!
But from Sable's point of view Adrienne's feelings don't matter all that much. Sable just wants her family. Adrienne isn't the child's biological mother, so she's no concern of Sable's. It's a complicated story and I really liked it because of all these different points of view but I can see where Sable is coming from.
Sable likely learned how to ambush and meddle from Connie so you do have a point there.
 

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The sad thing is that Mandy actually probably did love JR more than Sue Ellen did. Sue Ellen and JR actually seemed to seek pleasure from tormenting each other and causing deep psychological wounding to one another. After a certain point Sue Ellen and JR just remained married to one another so as to deprive each other of what they really wanted in life. I don't think Mandy even comes close to the actual slut mark as Frankie does. Mandy was not the pursuer in the situation and was somehow influenced by JR's bullshit. From what I remember at that time, and forgive me it's been years since I watched Dallas, Sue Ellen was a fountain of Bile and JR was poking her with a thorny stick.

Besides, upon the ever-reliable sources of TNT Dallas, Mandy turned to religion after being dumped by J.R....

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I've been rewatching The Colbys in lockdown and Katherine Ross truly was awful as Frankie. She says her lines with absolutely no conviction and always has the same deer caught in the headlines expression on her face.

When she says she loves Sable I absolutely cringe.

I've never actually seen her in anything else does she give an acceptable performance in anything else?
 

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She says her lines with absolutely no conviction
Intentional or not, it works for her character. We shouldn't love her too much as it would disrupt the balance between the Scott sisters.
If you'd change Frankie you would also change Sable, and that's the whole point of this appreciation thread.
does she give an acceptable performance in anything else?
I thought this was a good one
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The beautiful Francesca with...one of her husbands
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And now, as Mrs. Jason Colby, she's the queen of California. Hurrah!
 

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I've been rewatching The Colbys in lockdown and Katherine Ross truly was awful as Frankie. She says her lines with absolutely no conviction and always has the same deer caught in the headlines expression on her face.

When she says she loves Sable I absolutely cringe.

I've never actually seen her in anything else does she give an acceptable performance in anything else?

She was better in roles that allowed her some kind of character development, or when she had to suffer a lot (I´m sure @Alexis would love to watch these movies...lol). Anyway, IMHO she stayed permanently in the 70s limbo with others like Lady McGraw and Samantha Eggar aka first Maggie Gioberti. Let´s not forget that Meryl Streep ALSO debuted in the 70s and look at her now...though she might be the exception to the rule. Now seriously, there are a few great actresses who started around that time who kept on acting and most of them were really good. But then there is that "bunch from the limbo" I mentioned before...Ugh.
 

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I love the gif of Miles screaming at Jeff after Fallon (apparently her motor skills were undamaged) stealing Miles' Ferrari. Later we see he has a second one in reserve. And then Jason tells the cousin-brothers to stop kicking the hell out of each other. I am still undecided about Frankie. Something about her relationship with Jeff brothers me
 

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It's not so different from Alexis who, upon her forced return to Denver, suddenly decides to become THE mother in the lives of the Carrington children.
But whereas Alexis went full on melodrama and accused that devilish ex-husband of hers, Frankie shrugged it off as "life gets complicated". She could have accused Cecil of the worst things possible, he wasn't even there to deny it, but if she could avoid it she would. From a dramatic point of view there doesn't seem to be much effort coming from her, but then something-something happens and then Jeff realizes something-something. (all thanks to Sable's scheme).

Another difference is that Alexis had her revenge mission to sink her teeth into, whereas Frankie seemed somewhat lost. Even without considering Jason I didn't get the impression that she was a happy person. It is possible that the divorce of the Scott parents had had a particular impact on both sisters, but they don't really get into much detail about that.
And then there's the bizarre brother-swapping stuff from way back - it's all a bit wacky in that regard.
 

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It's not so different from Alexis who, upon her forced return to Denver, suddenly decides to become THE mother in the lives of the Carrington children.
But whereas Alexis went full on melodrama and accused that devilish ex-husband of hers, Frankie shrugged it off as "life gets complicated". She could have accused Cecil of the worst things possible, he wasn't even there to deny it, but if she could avoid it she would. From a dramatic point of view there doesn't seem to be much effort coming from her, but then something-something happens and then Jeff realizes something-something. (all thanks to Sable's scheme).

Another difference is that Alexis had her revenge mission to sink her teeth into, whereas Frankie seemed somewhat lost. Even without considering Jason I didn't get the impression that she was a happy person. It is possible that the divorce of the Scott parents had had a particular impact on both sisters, but they don't really get into much detail about that.
And then there's the bizarre brother-swapping stuff from way back - it's all a bit wacky in that regard.
Thanks for adding subtext that wasn't there.
 
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It's not like DYNASTY and DALLAS aren't discussed like that. I didn't state anything as a fact, except for what happened on screen.
Ok, I get that we do all add stuff on, but you write a lot of Frankie-fiction. It's just that Frankie doesn't even have a relationship with Jeff at all. Over 2 seasons not much happens between them. Frankie never seems particularly interested. She's too busy you see, stealing Sable's life.
Frankie shrugged it off as "life gets complicated"
Frankie shrugs everything off. She takes accountability for nothing.
From a dramatic point of view there doesn't seem to be much effort coming from her,
Well yes. They should have had a defibrillator on set.
 
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stealing Sable's life
Wow, talk about subtext. You may think that's what she's doing, but the story (as written by the writers i.e. factual) never showed one single scene that suggested a scheme or intentional homewrecking or any other shady shenanigans or wicked smiles etc. It was never shown from that perspective. Never.
She could be terribly inconsiderate, but that's not an action. You don't achieve something simply by being inconsiderate.
 

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Wow, talk about subtext. You may think that's what she's doing, but the story (as written by the writers i.e. factual) never showed one single scene that suggested a scheme or intentional homewrecking or any other shady shenanigans or wicked smiles etc. It was never shown from that perspective. Never.
She could be terribly inconsiderate, but that's not an action. You don't achieve something simply by being inconsiderate.
She had an affair with her sisters husband and moved into her house.
That wasn't subtext. It was BOLD PRINT.
 
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