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I keep stressing that people should listen to tommie but nope. No one ever does.
nuDynasty Episode Chat S5E22: Catch 22 (last episode)
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Who's Tommie ? 
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Now now,....you two behave or I'll make you read Liam's book. 
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Well, it was his fault.Now now,....you two behave or I'll make you read Liam's book.
Either way - I'm kind of annoyed how quickly they wrapped up the ending of Liam's book scam. It had no consequences at all.
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I guess it would have caused a drift between Liam and Fallon if the show had continued another season but the writers had no time for that so it was terminated too easily.
Adam's departure was treated too lightly too.
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If Liam had been under contract with Fallon's old publishing house Femperial (which would have been under the Fallon Unlimited banner) it definitely would have made for a major issue in their marriage if his plagiarism was exposed. But they wrote this story as if Liam had been pressured to write the second book by some other publisher. Ellen could have used the scandal as another tool in her campaign to drive Fallon out of the CEO chair. I guess they did not want to have F&L fighting as the baby was on the way.
I can fully understand how the writers became so divided on Adam's fate. They did not want Steven to be tainted by having killed Adam, given the fact that Adam could have easily killed Steven but (for some reason, thankfully) didn't. The decision to have Adam "reboot" as a vet in the UK seemed like an option they drew out of a hat full of random plot scenarios. Sam Underwood got precious few opportunities to interact onscreen without his American accent, so that may have been part of the reason for that location, though of course we have to hope that Kirby doesn't want a pet when she returns to London with Amanda. I felt a bit short-changed by not getting to hear the full-throated reactions of the various family members (especially Blake, but also Sam, Fallon and Amanda) to the news of what Adam had done to Steven. There just wasn't time, just as there was no time (unless I blinked and missed it) for Kirby to express her....displeasure over how she'd been manipulated by Steven-as-Graham.
I can fully understand how the writers became so divided on Adam's fate. They did not want Steven to be tainted by having killed Adam, given the fact that Adam could have easily killed Steven but (for some reason, thankfully) didn't. The decision to have Adam "reboot" as a vet in the UK seemed like an option they drew out of a hat full of random plot scenarios. Sam Underwood got precious few opportunities to interact onscreen without his American accent, so that may have been part of the reason for that location, though of course we have to hope that Kirby doesn't want a pet when she returns to London with Amanda. I felt a bit short-changed by not getting to hear the full-throated reactions of the various family members (especially Blake, but also Sam, Fallon and Amanda) to the news of what Adam had done to Steven. There just wasn't time, just as there was no time (unless I blinked and missed it) for Kirby to express her....displeasure over how she'd been manipulated by Steven-as-Graham.
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And yet oldDYNASTY had few qualms about Steven being tainted by killing Matthew.
But I digress.
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See how the Fallon character was lessened by not having Steven around. Their relationship was a highlight of the series and the show runners who took over ruined that.
Their relationship was as genuine as Pamela sue and Al’s
James is a good actor and Rafael is not.
Sam should have been recurring and a lot more trouble.
If you can do your own prosthetics in this cw world and fool everyone then someone should have ripped off EH Alexis’ face off seasons ago.
I think it would have revealed either Grace Adler or maybe Lucy McGillicuddy, I was always waiting for Elaine to curl her upper lip and go ewwwww. That’s how she played it and was awful.
I’ve been accused of repeating the same thing but as this is the last thread so why not, Nicolette Sheridan
was amazing in season 1 and even in season 2 with the crap writing she stole every scene and EH could never and it ruined the show not having a real Alexis in it.
Their relationship was as genuine as Pamela sue and Al’s
James is a good actor and Rafael is not.
Sam should have been recurring and a lot more trouble.
If you can do your own prosthetics in this cw world and fool everyone then someone should have ripped off EH Alexis’ face off seasons ago.
I think it would have revealed either Grace Adler or maybe Lucy McGillicuddy, I was always waiting for Elaine to curl her upper lip and go ewwwww. That’s how she played it and was awful.
I’ve been accused of repeating the same thing but as this is the last thread so why not, Nicolette Sheridan
was amazing in season 1 and even in season 2 with the crap writing she stole every scene and EH could never and it ruined the show not having a real Alexis in it.
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It was not the show runners "who took over" who fired James McCay, it's CW.
It seems that Nicolette Sheridan was toxic for the rest of the cast. And if she was, she is then responsible of her own departure.
Besides, Elaine Hendrix could have played a vicious Alexis if she had been authorized to do so. The only time she had a crual line to say, she was very good :
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Fun Facts: James MacKay (Steven) is straight; Dan Amboyer (Graham) is gay. And both of them are actors.
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Whoever it was
It was a big mistake.
They wanted a cute gay neutered puppy that followed Fallon around not a masculine complex man who happens to be gay.
And that scene doesn’t compare, even though Daniella is good it fell flat and Nathalie should never have been let go.
Nicolette came up from the best acted soap ever and she knew how to balance camp with drama also subtle expressions and nuanced delivery, I don’t care who’s difficult behind the scenes, film production is difficult . You don’t think Joan made her cast mates lives difficult ? Who cares it’s what we get to see that matters, Elaine, no sorry never heard of her. She destroyed the Alexis Carrington legacy and character.
My last rant
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I didn't mean the actor or any gay man having no ability to speak the lower voice. I meant Steven. As soon as he took the mask off his voice immediately changed back so it was hard to believe it was the same person all the time.
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She did not destroyed anything. She played the material she was given. It was the writers' choice to neuter Alexis, like Fallon was neutered in OGDynasty.
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It all begins with the producers, network and writers. The actors will play what’s written. Sometimes they will succeed if the material is good, often they will strike out if the material is bad. They are the hired help. They geared the show towards a younger female demographic which destroyed the chances of it ever being taken remotely serious. Gillies said they had two directions to go in. Camp like the OG or comedy. They chose comedy. How about a third? More dramatic and darker than the OG. With dark comedy. I would’ve love to have seen this. CW was never going to deliver it. It was what it was. I’m going to miss hate watching it a tiny bit. But many, many episodes were excruciatingly bad to sit through.
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