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17 August 1972 - 22 August 1973

1759; 1817; 1868; 1884-1886; 1890-1892; 1895; 1900; 1905; 1924-1925; 1927; 1942; 1946; 1961; 1969



Yes - I’m watching at quite a pace. Ploughing through these in large part to hasten on to the consecutive episodes, but also because I’m finding it very easy to watch.

While I was previously seeing similarities with Neighbours, I’m now recognising a little of another later Aussie soap - Sons and Daughters in Xrds. What with the strong matriarchal figures; the sometimes outrageous storylines (in a scene later reprised wholesale in S&D, one episode in this run featured Poor Jill being electrocuted by an appliance apparently rigged by Vera’s stalker in a bid to shock her. This time it was one of the salon’s hairdryers rather than a vacuum cleaner); and the mix of rather airy upper middle class characters and blue collar everymen.

Representing the latter in particular are the Harvey family into whom Jill has married. With most of their scenes taking place in the drab sitting room of their home in Kings Oak, the Harveys seem Xrds' concession to the traditional soap family. The fact that they seem to be permanently seated at the table in front of their brick fireplace reminds me very much of the Tilsley clan who would make their way onto Corrie the following decade.

And, my God, can they eat. Every Harvey scene brings more dialogue spoken by already-Yeti-like Stan through mouthfuls of noisily-consumed food. I haven’t seen such manners since John and David Palmer stopped sitting round the table together. In one of yesterday’s episodes, Stan devoured two fish fingers in the course of half a scene (I've decided Edward Clayton must save a fortune by only ever eating on set since he seems to really take advantage of the food on offer in these scenes). Stan’s just taken on work an an electrical shop in Kings Oak so suddenly every character finds their appliances in need of repair (David Hunter’s wireless transistor is the latest casualty). All the same, there's an earthy reality to Edward Clayton's restrained, unfussy performance and dishevelled appearance (right down to the greasy hair) that wouldn't seem out of place on early Brookie.

Then there’s pigeon-fancying Wilf who seems to get nothing but bad news from his children. The house is full of drama and Wilf has let fly at his kids several times. He’s played by an actor whose range could, to put it mildly, use some broadening. Nonetheless there’s something rather endearing about him in an Albert Tatlock kind of way. In the latest episodes, Wilf’s gone to visit his dying, estranged brother, looked after by their sister, and by his tarty lover (introduced by close up shots of her arse as she wiggled along the street accompanied by - I kid you not - a Salvation Army Marching Band). To his credit, when introduced, Wilf simply extended his hand and said it was nice to meet her.

Most fascinating of all for me is Sheila. Initially introduced (at least according to the remaining un-wiped episodes) as a friendly, apparently placid motel worker, she’s emerged as one of the series’ edgier characters. To date, she’s the only person in the series to have used the term “bitch”. Twice!

The first time was to tell Sandy’s girlfriend she was a “selfish bitch” for running off while his life was in balance in hospital. And it’s hard to fault her for that. Since I only ever met said girlfriend in the post-accident episodes the only note I saw her hit was “I can’t face going in there” said ad nauseam. Even though she explained about some phobia of being around unwell people, my very one-sided picture just made Sandy’s girlfriend seem like… well: a selfish bitch who was making it all about her. Sheila’s second use of the term was in regard to herself, when she was in some man trouble or other and, after Stan made some allusion or other she agreed that she might be an “easy bitch” (or words to that effect. I forget the actual adjective), but she wasn’t careless.

It’s Sheila who found herself pregnant and without a man (she’s not the first, but things worked out OK for Diane - at least for a time), and watching her wrestle with the decision about keeping the baby has been all the more interesting since it dovetails with Jill and Stan’s struggle under the same roof over not being to have a baby. Reading between the lines it seems Sheila has been persuaded (or perhaps decided) to have the baby and allow Jill and Stan to adopt, so I’m curious about where that goes.

Meanwhile, Diane and Vince have split up, and both have separately gone through scenes of drunken disorder in the Crossroads foyer, with Diane adding debauchery with random male strangers into the mix. I was pleased to see Vince stuck around for a while, but he appears to have now checked out of the series since there’s now a new postie-cum-barman on the scene. I feel sad to see him go.

Like Sheila, Vince is a character I don’t recall ever hearing anything about before watching the series and he grew to be a favourite. Vera is another. As is Miss Tatum. If I were making a Top Ten of Crossroads favourite characters to date, all four would feature prominently.

Of characters I had heard of before watching the series, Amy Turtle is a standout. I’d only ever heard her name in connection with the series’ naff image: as partly inspiring Mrs Overall, and for Ann George’s reputation for fluffing lines. From what I’ve seen, she gets a raw deal since whatever else she may be, Amy is always, always highly watchable. She’s a scene stealer (it’s easy to understand why there seem to be speculations that Noele wanted Ann off the series), and she’s almost always hilarious. All soaps need an Amy Turtle.

As for Noele herself: things seem to have quietened down, and she seems somehow less visible in these more recent episodes. The consecutive episodes following Sandy’s accident remain peak Meg for me, and that run of episodes impressed right to the end, culminating as they did in a that highly ambitious scene where Meg - having forgiven Timothy after a dramatic location meeting in Coventry - walked into the Cathedral and up the aisle to have her faith restored. The only distraction came from the old ladies in the back row, clearly there to watch filming, their heads turning to the overhead camera, then to Noele, then back to camera. But they could’t take the power of a highly cinematic moment, creatively up there with anything series were doing at the time.

On this note, I do think Xrds is one of the most creatively-shot series of the era. There are lots of interesting choices in camera setups that continue to interest. The creativity, the mostly strong storylines and an array of great characters far outweigh any of the series’ limitations or budgetary constraints for me.

With Hugh Mortimer on the scene, it’s my hope that I’ll be watching Meg’s wedding by the end of the weekend. Watch this space.
 

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I've had an email today telling me my order hasn't shipped yet as they are going to slip the replacement disc into my order of the boxset and then ship it next week. I can live with that. I suppose it saves them having to post twice to me. Hopefully I should have my order by the end of next week.
 
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Has anyone received their replacement disc yet?

I've had an email today telling me my order hasn't shipped yet


And I've had one today confirming my replacement disc has now shipped. We're certainly keeping them busy at the moment.




Hopefully I should have my order by the end of next week.

Fantastic. It'll be worth the wait and I'm looking forward to you checking in, Alexis.
 

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Love your reviews @Mel O'Drama

i have decided to watch it in chronological order

I was on a long train journey today with Nolly to keep me company - on Blankety Blank with Terry, various interviews and chat shows and was there before i knew it

I also got this email today @Alexis

The initial shipments spotted a fault made during manufacturing. This means that Disc 14 and Disc 17 are duplicated with the same episodes. Turns out, you can have too much of a good thing.

Rest assured, I am on the case and will be manufacturing a replacement disc and popping it into your set so that your Crossroads collection will arrive

with the correct discs. This replacement disc will come in a separate little case for you to open and place into the main boxset. Your item will start shipping again from next week. Once again, please accept my apologies for any inconvenience caused.


:bravo1: Cant wait

I also found my School girl diary - which I will post at the weekend

Im not Samuel Pepys but have kept a dairy daily since i was 10 :)

Throughout the 80s Dallas featured greatly but it must have been significant and she must have meant something back then as I write about Noele's sacking and her appearance on Russell Harty

Ive also found a lot of "Soap style books and magazines which i bought obviously for Dallas but feature Meg and Crossroads
 

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Only one bit of Nolly jarred with me and that's the caption at the end the read something like "Noele Gordon died in 1985. Crossroads didn't survive without her; it was axed in 1988." I can understand why, but this was intentionally misleading. Gordon had been written out in 1981, which means the show lasted seven or eight years without her: that's not too shabby. I kept watching Crossroads until the end -- maybe not quite as regularly as I had as a kid, but that had more to do with me growing up than the quality of the show itself -- and it remained just as (un)watchable as it always has been, and just as schizoid: rape and fatal heroin overdoses mingling with recording studios in the motel basement and Miss Diane turning into a donkey. It's sentimental revisionism to suggest that Meg-era Xrds was some sort of sacred golden age. For all its memorable characters and storylines, there were weeks, if not months, at a time when 70s Xrds was so boring it was like watching paint dry, but one accepted it simply because there was nothing else on. From beginning to end, Crossroads was, as Fictional Real-Life Diane described in Nolly, "a tatty little soap", albeit one that occasionally unexpectedly (unintentionally?) transcended expectation:

I do think Xrds is one of the most creatively-shot series of the era. There are lots of interesting choices in camera setups that continue to interest. The creativity, the mostly strong storylines and an array of great characters far outweigh any of the series’ limitations or budgetary constraints for me.

Xrds was never socially relevant and that's why people both loved and hated it, but I think the arrivals of Brookside and then especially EastEnders demonstrated as never before how soaps could be relevant while still conforming to the unspoken rules of the genre that Xrds and Coronation Street had laid down. That, added to the channel's growing distaste for it (a parallel can be made with what was happening at the same time to the equally long-running Doctor Who, which the BBC didn't even bother to officially cancel before ceasing production the year after Crossroads) that finally did for it.

Nolly was great and everything, but ultimately she wasn't Crossroads.
 
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Nolly was great and everything, but ultimately she wasn't Crossroads.
No she wasnt, but she was the one person I think of if Crossroads is mentioned - she was the Figure head, the anchor, much like most people will think of Larry Hagman for Dallas

When rewatching Nolly there is one line that gets me every time and thats when she is in Venice and reflecting on her life and loves and says to wonderful Augustus Frew

"Out of all of them the one i love is you" and he replies "Oh Miss Gordon" I have needed a kleenex evry time i watch it

Id kill to have a copy of this on DVD, (i dont have a DVD recorder - happy to pay!!! anyone!!!!)

Also didnt realise that Augustus Frew was in the film About a boy when much younger
 

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5.15pm in others (e.g. Southern/TVS).

Yes that would be right for North of the Border - always watched it before dinner and then it was homework after dinner

I found my diary for 1981 - Letts Schoolgirl - mainly full of my schoolday life and banal at times, Dallas - very much Dallas - and the odd bit of other trivia going on in the world, my life!!

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Nolly was great and everything, but ultimately she wasn't Crossroads.
I agree. Meg was undoubtedly the character that most people associate with Crossroads and of the cast, Noele's contribution to the show over the years was second to none, however when I think of my favourite storylines from the show, none of them feature Meg. I mentioned some in my previous post but also when Rosemary shot David, when Benny was accused of Linda Welch's murder and Stan Harvey's affair with Ingrid. In fact, other than her marrying Hugh and when he died, I'm hard pushed to remember of any major storylines in which Meg had a central role, although I'm sure there were many.
 
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Id kill to have a copy of this on DVD,

I'm sure it will be out on DVD/Blu-ray soon enough. The Road To Corrie came out a little while after it aired, and RTD's Its A Sin series has also been released.


On the subject of Nolly, I'm not sure how these things work with streaming channels, but does anyone know how successful the series has been or how many viewers have watched?



I found my diary for 1981 - Letts Schoolgirl - mainly full of my schoolday life and banal at times, Dallas - very much Dallas - and the odd bit of other trivia going on in the world, my life!!

Oh, it's lovely to see these events recorded in pre-social media times. It reminds me of some of my own diary entries in the Eighties.



other than her marrying Hugh and when he died, I'm hard pushed to remember of any major storylines in which Meg had a central role, although I'm sure there were many.

Having just watched it, the aftermath of Sandy's accident was told very much from Meg's perspective. Of the 50-ish episodes I've watched so far this handful were certainly the standout as far as Noele goes.
 

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24 August 1973 - 4 December 1973

1971; 1976-1981; 2012-2015; 2018; 2028


As with many series released by Network, the VTR slates at the beginning of each half of most episodes are great fun. Given Xrds’ reputation, it’s perhaps a little ironic that they look much more slick and professional than the hand-held ones featured in the concurrent nighttime drama Upstairs Downstairs, which I recently watched in full. While there is frequently chatter that can be heard in the background, I haven’t yet picked up any kind of inappropriate comments (more’s the pity). One does get to know the announcer, though. It’s usually a slightly plummy guy, but he must’ve gone on holiday for a bit as he was briefly replaced by a Scottish voice. How I gasped when Scottish guy said “Part One, Take Two” instead of “Part Two, Take One” (or was it the other way round?). All slates have been Take One or Take Two, but there was a shocker last night when Part Two of one of the episodes was Take FOUR! The announcer sounded suitably peeved and I’d be willing to bet the person responsible never worked again.

The episode celebrating the twelfth anniversary of the motel’s opening felt suitbably celebratory and transitioned from a shot of Sandy, Meg and Jill to a still photo of the three of them standing in the same positions at the beginning of the series. I assume it was commemorating a significant milestone for Crossroads the series (and not just Crossroads the UK's sole motel) but I’m not sure what. The series’ ninth anniversary, perhaps?

Having previously felt a couple of Aussie soap connections, I seem to have settled on seeing the similarities that would crop up in Reg Watson’s series which came after Xrds but before Neighbours: Just like the staff of The Young Doctors, the moteliers never seem to get away from the place in which they work. They socialise there; they get romantically involved with one another; they care about one another’s personal lives and problems; and they live together even when not at the workplace.

Not that we never get away from the venue itself. Increasingly we’re moving into Kings Oak proper. Joining environs such as Vera’s canal barge; Wilf’s cottage, Lake House and Miss Tatum’s post office comes the latest spinoff into traditional soapville: the flats. Vince is back (hooray) and he and Diane have reunited and bought a flat that is best described as yellow (every inch of wall and even doors is bright yellow). Meanwhile, directly next door, Jill and Stan have moved into their yellow flat with their new baby (courtesy of Sheila). Despite the jaundiced hues, Diane has a touch of the green-eyed monster over their upwardly mobile neighbours’ fitted carpets and actual furniture. And she positively sees red when she learns that the Harveys have bought a new chair. The keeping up with the Joneses arc is great fun. It really is the stuff that good soap is made of: human, slightly petty and relatable.

Meanwhile, the fellow who knocked up Sheila then gave her £100 before being told off by Wilf has returned and seems to want to reconcile. It looks like a tug of love over baby Harvey is on the horizon. Though since my latest episode will be followed by a gap of some 150 episodes no doubt it will all be resolved one way or another when I next tune in.
 

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Let them go back to Love Island and dire Reality TV @Mel O'Drama
I watched that epiosde on ITV player last week and like the Xmas carol service - it felt like you were in a church watching an actual wedding

I saw clips online of the real Sandy's funeral when Roger Tongue sadly passed away and expected Noele to be there but she was away in Australia at the time

Watched Russell Harty again, he really did have a lot of warmth and empathy, cant believe he also passed away in 1988 (still think of him being whacked by Grace Jones and her handbag on TV!)
 

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PS I wonder how many people realise that this charity was set up thanks to Crossroads and Noele Gordons drive to take it forwards

its pretty amazing really and im sure so many Carers will be grateful for it

Crossroads Care, also known as Crossroads, was a registered charity in England and Wales which provided support for carers. In 2012, it merged with The Princess Royal Trust for Carers to form Carers Trust.[1]

The organisation was first established in 1974. It took its name from the TV soap opera Crossroads, in which the problems of families caring for disabled people at home were highlighted by an accident to one of the characters. The programme makers, Central Television, made a donation of £10,000 for a pilot scheme to be set up in Rugby, Warwickshire. Crossroads subsequently expanded to become a national organisation with over 250 local schemes throughout England and Wales, with a sister organisation in Scotland, Crossroads Caring Scotland.
 

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Let them go back to Love Island and dire Reality TV @Mel O'Drama

I know soaps are generally more eventful and dynamic these days, and I can appreciate it would be a bit of a shock for someone who has only known this to be confronted with Seventies Crossroads (especially since James has mentioned above that there were periods when watching Xrds was like watching paint dry), but I just found it incredibly sad that the writer's entire mindset seemed geared towards event rather than character. You can almost taste the disappointment that nobody died or got dumped or stood up and made a scene.


Someone can't watch a single episode of a long running continuing drama and get any real sense of the show, especially when the episode is not a typical one. I think a better journalist would have made that point.

Exactly. It's depressing (if unsurprising) that younger viewers have become conditioned into being so attention deficit that they can write off a series after watching twenty minutes, which suggests that more sedate programmes probably wouldn't be given a chance today.

Quite honestly I struggled with the first few episodes of Crossroads I watched and had to give it a little time to "take". The thought that someone might experience this would probably send 21st Century programmers into panic.

I think the most telling comment was the complaint that the church scene was "really long". Contemporary audiences seem to tune out if a scene goes on for longer than 90 seconds.

For me, the appeal of many of these soaps is that they capture the fascination of the ordinary and mundane. I'm sure soaps have these scenes in 2023 as well, but far less liberally. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing depends on your point of view.



I watched that epiosde on ITV player last week and like the Xmas carol service - it felt like you were in a church watching an actual wedding

I'm approaching that episode very soon and really looking forward to watching. Especially having seen some of it recreated in Nolly.



Watched Russell Harty again, he really did have a lot of warmth and empathy

Yes. As a child I always found him very friendly and accessible, and I like his chatty, informal manner.

I've watched quite a bit of old Russell recently since he did a lot of Upstairs Downstairs interviews (with both being LWT).
 

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The organisation was first established in 1974. It took its name from the TV soap opera Crossroads, in which the problems of families caring for disabled people at home were highlighted by an accident to one of the characters.

A number of the episodes I've watched featuring Sandy's recovery around 1973 have focussed on he and Meg getting a scheme running to ensure disabled people and their carers are given support and respite. In particular Meg and Sandy befriended a woman in the village who'd been caring for her disabled son for two years, and it went into great detail about their daily routines, the mobility aids they use in the house, etc. I've found it fascinating. It was clearly there as a way of informing viewers and I did wonder if it tied in with something in real life. Sounds like it could be this.
 

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A number of the episodes I've watched featuring Sandy's recovery around 1973 have focussed on he and Meg getting a scheme running to ensure disabled people and their carers are given support and respite. In particular Meg and Sandy befriended a woman in the village who'd been caring for her disabled son for two years, and it went into great detail about their daily routines, the mobility aids they use in the house, etc. I've found it fascinating. It was clearly there as a way of informing viewers and I did wonder if it tied in with something in real life. Sounds like it could be this.

This is a lovely wee website, full of great and interesting information and has a section about Crossroads scheme

 

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A 1983 interview with Noele and Jack Barton in Venice - and he asks Jack Barton why he decided to bring her back

With Thanks to
Uploaded for noelegordon.co.uk the official website, with permission of Ed Doolan.

https://soundcloud.com/atvnetwork%2Fnoele-gordon-and-ed-doolan
https://soundcloud.com/atvnetwork%2Fnoele-gordon-and-ed-doolan-1
Highlights of the BBC WM Bingley Hall special of 1982. Noele Gordon talks about mistakes in Crossroads as well as live TV being the best kind of television. Other debate includes Don Maclean's appearance in Crossroads and Nolly's first stage appearance.

https://soundcloud.com/atvnetwork%2Fnoele-gordon-don-maclean-and-alan-towers-with-ed-doolan-from-bingley-hall-1982
 
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