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This episode is so surreal, with the attempts at humour and Meg pretending to stifle a cough, as David listens outside her door, convinced she has another man in her room with her.

It was, as you say, bizarre but fun. I really enjoyed the combination of soap, suspense and situation comedy. The suspense perhaps added a different element, but the soap/sitcom combo is something that British soaps can do really well (Aussie soaps too, if we're talking middle-years Number 96 or late-Eighties Neighbours).

Thinking back on it, I feel what added to the bizarre feeling of this particular arc is that it involved regal, glamorous Meg rather than one of the "character" roles who might more typically play this kind of quirky fare.

When I watched this, what popped into my mind was an incident from the Eighties where an intruder broke into Buckingham Palace and ended up in the Queen's bedroom. If I remember correctly, they ended up exchanging words, and Meg initially discovering the intruder in her room is how I'd imagine that might have played out.



Is this the last we see of Meg's bedroom, or is this just the beginning of a classic extension to the Crossroads motel set?

Well, let's just say you should enjoy it while it's there.

I'm quite intrigued by the Xrds sets and the layout of the motel itself. It's so odd that the kitchen seems to be directly behind reception while the dining room appears to be in another direction. And that little hallway to Meg's private living room has just been seen which has helped make it feel a bit less connected to the motel itself. At other times it seemed characters just walked from the motel directly into her room. It also seems they have one chalet set which is slightly redressed depending who we see in it.

Meanwhile, other sets vanish, apparently forever, only to reappear again months or years later. The kitchen and garage sets are prime examples of this. And in an episode I watched a day or two ago, characters were speaking about moving into somewhere where other long-departed characters lived many moons ago which made me wonder if that, too, was about to come back to the screen.
 

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I'm quite intrigued by the Xrds sets and the layout of the motel itself. It's so odd that the kitchen seems to be directly behind reception while the dining room appears to be in another direction. And that little hallway to Meg's private living room has just been seen which has helped make it feel a bit less connected to the motel itself. At other times it seemed characters just walked from the motel directly into her room.

I've thought that too! The layout bears no real resemblance to that external photo they often show of the motel with the sign.

I'll have to make the most of Meg's bedroom set then, it looked great whilst it lasted! (Perhaps Noele insisted it became her personal dressing room, which helped lead to her being fired ??!!)
 

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I've thought that too! The layout bears no real resemblance to that external photo they often show of the motel with the sign.

It's part of the charm, I think. All the same I'd love to see a floor plan that tries to make sense of it all.



it looked great whilst it lasted!

It certainly did. So good I was surprised not to see more of it. I imagine it might have been redressed as another location, but I can't remember if any new locations started showing up around the time we stopped seeing it.


Then again...

Perhaps Noele insisted it became her personal dressing room, which helped lead to her being fired ??!!

Tee hee. Given the outrageous behind-the-scenes dramas, this could totally have happened.
 

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As @Mel O'Drama knows, I was south at the weekend and did a little (well a big ) detour from London to go to Ross on Wye to pay my respects at a lovely little Anglican church called st Marys which is the resting place of the late, great Noele Gordon and her mother Joan.

Her grave was easy enough to find and its in a lovely little spot overlooking the River Wye - I bought a little plant and card (on R side of headstone) and im so glad I made the effort to go

It seems strange that its nearly 38 years ago since she passed away and Thanks to "Nolly" and Russell T Davies - I have a much deeper appreciation of all that she did - for women on TV, for ATV and for her life prior to appearing on a soap opera. It was an amazing career and if she were alive today she should have been made a Dame (as you get it for not a lot now)

RIP Nolly, Ross on Wye looked a lovely place to call home for many years

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was south at the weekend and did a little (well a big ) detour from London to go to Ross on Wye to pay my respects at a lovely little Anglican church called st Marys which is the resting place of the late, great Noele Gordon and her mother Joan.

Her grave was easy enough to find and its in a lovely little spot overlooking the River Wye

I'm so glad you made your pilgrimage, @Barbara Fan. And it's wonderful to see the sun was out while you were there as well.

I've been to Ross many times, and now that I've just had a look on maps I realise I've been to the gardens and viewpoint attached to the church, and no doubt the graveyard itself. I'll have to remember this whenever I'm next there.

What an absolutely beautiful location for a plot, and such a gorgeous headstone.

Thanks for sharing your photos.
 

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I'm so glad you made your pilgrimage, @Barbara Fan. And it's wonderful to see the sun was out while you were there as well.

I've been to Ross many times, and now that I've just had a look on maps I realise I've been to the gardens and viewpoint attached to the church, and no doubt the graveyard itself. I'll have to remember this whenever I'm next there.

What an absolutely beautiful location for a plot, and such a gorgeous headstone.

Thanks for sharing your photos.
Im glad I made it too and what a lovely part of the world

As chance would have it - someone who visits famous graves posted this on Youtube a few weeks before which was a great sign post for finding it - however gut instinct takes you there

 

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Have been continuing watching Crossroads and finally - finally - Mrs Mad as a brush Bailley is no more - she was very hard work

and how easy was it to get a Drs apt back then!!?

Im finding Bernard - Control freak - Booth rather hard going and rather enjoyed Diane with Steve with the curly hair Cater together

I always remember him as Doubting Thomas in Jesus of Nazareth - like many in Crossroads I end up googling them to see what they did next and i havent seen him for years in film or TV

I was very sad to read this and he was only 46 when he died

 

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14 November - 20 December 1978
3046 - 3067



Another month has come and gone and there’s a feeling of a series in its prime. Every plot and subplot is proving most enjoyable at the moment.

One of the episodes circa #3060 has a fantastic Easter Egg hidden away at the beginning - even further back than than the VTR board. It has Noele Gordon speaking direct to camera as though we’re a guest who’s been away and reading from her notes about what’s been going on. It’s like a soapy Jackanory. I assume it aired before a significantly earlier episode since she ends by telling us about Doris Luke’s return and Mrs Bailey’s suicide.

I’m extremely happy to say that Sharon and I have indeed clicked. And the thing that’s done it is that most archetypal of soap devices: the love triangle. As previously mentioned, she’s now an item with Victor Lee her boss at the garage, only for the return of his sister-in-law (and former lover) Adrienne "Rennie" Palmer" to threaten them.

While I had my reservations about the garage becoming a part of the Xrds’ landscape again due to the limited dramatic scope, I’ve currently been enjoying these scenes where Rennie shows up at every opportunity to make goo-goo eyes at Victor when he’s there, and to have waspish and frosty exchanges with Sharon when he’s not. Their exchanges are abundant in what I recall Joan Collins once calling “soap-ease”. They're full of put downs and quips while also feeling rather stereotypical and daytime soap-ish… in the best way possible.

Sharon’s capacity for getting to the heart of things is proving good for her character. While Rennie goes round the houses laying her traps, Sharon cuts straight through to the heart of things by tackling it head-on and speaking frankly. She’s also attempting to undermine Rennie’s attempts to undermine her(!) by pointing out her gameplay to Vic. While Sharon lays it on the line frankly, Rennie plays on Vic’s emotions by becoming emotional or upset, leading Sharon to ask him:

Sharon said:
Who wins? The one who cries the loudest?

Despite the unglamorous setting, Sharon - with her middle class airs - feels more at home in a bitchy exchange with a love rival than she does in her day to day life. There’s something rather Sons And Daughters about Sharon and Rennie’s scenes. Again, in the best way possible.

Even more than this, I’ve even grown to like Sharon’s curt manner, such as the brevity of her speech at times, even to friends and colleagues with whom she gets along. Sharon seems to rarely say a complete sentence if it can be said in a clipped word or two, no matter how cold or rude the end result sounds. And I enjoy that.

Things have come to a head with Sharon, Vic and Rennie at a dinner party where Sharon ended up pouring her wine over Vic and then sobbing to Diane after he left to take Rennie home. She’s nothing if not a drama queen, but the swings between her cool assessments and hot-headed reactions when provoked are proving very entertaining.






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3046 - 3067

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On top of the office, we’re now regularly seeing the garage workshop. Again, I really didn’t think this would work as well as it is (at the moment anyway). Benny has now switched overalls (literally. While Benny’s Theme played, Doris handed him the ones given to him by his fiancée Maureen to wear for his job interview) and is working there.

Benny’s new partner-in-crime is one of several new arrivals in this block of episodes: Joe “Mac” MacDonald. Like Benny, Vic, Doris, Shughie and Jane, Mac feels like a friendly, safe, “nice” character who gets on with pretty much everyone (thinking about it, I’m pleasantly surprised how many of these there are in Xrds at the moment). He’s proved competent at his job, he’s polite to everyone and being a really good friend to Benny, showing him a few basics of car mechanics and offering to teach Benny to drive (an offer he may well regret).

However, it is notable that - on DVD at least - Joe is the first non-white regular character. And while it hasn’t been overtly mentioned, it was significant enough for Doris Luke to get an End Of Part One shocked face upon meeting him.

This is one of those situations that must be something of a juggling act for the writers. The character adds some welcome diversity (and long overdue, considering Birmingham’s ethnic diversity) and it has already brought some low-key conflict. While not overtly stated, it’s suggested in several comments that Mac has experienced racism and intolerance. Indeed, it’s heavily implied that the reason for a good mechanic struggling to find employment is because of racism on the part of prospective employers. At the same time, there are good reasons for not directly referencing Mac’s ethnicity. Partly, it’s because to go in all guns blazing just screams tokenism. But mainly this approach works because it’s truthful that characters - even those for whom Mac’s race appears to be a big deal - would not directly address it. Instead, we pick up on little cues, such as Doris’s initial surprise, that show us more effectively than any words the bias that Mac can experience in even the most innocuous of situations. Doris's initial concern that he would get Benny into trouble or create a bad impression on their shared landlord when he went for an interview highlighted the immediate bias that surfaced for this nice character who would never consider herself a racist (and does anyone). I suspect Doris represents a significant portion of the Xrds audience who perhaps were less cosmopolitan and needed someone to go along with on a little journey towards acceptance.

This, for me, works far better than, say, the Williamses on Knots Landing a decade or so later where it felt as though the writers were almost unaware of their characters’ ethnicity or afraid to mention it. With the best of intentions there was universal acceptance, which is lovely but also feels rather avoidant. Xrds’ quiet acknowledgement of Mac being a black man feels less awkward and more progressive to me.

Another new arrival to the series is more significant in retrospect. Adam Chance has flown in.

Adam’s a character I remember well from my era of watching regularly (which would be towards the end of the original series). Back then I can’t say I saw much to him beyond the moustachioed Lothario, but already I’m finding him an enjoyable character who has brought immediate new chemistry to the series. In his initial scenes he was something of a threat to Meg, being a figure of authority who had business to take care of with her regarding his friend Hugh Mortimer.

He’s very quickly emerged as a character who is supportive towards her and David. And yes, he is a moustachioed Lothario, primarily associated with Jill who, incidentally, has just returned to the series, having left each of her children with their respective biological fathers. Between this and Diane’s child, it’s evident that the writers understand that soap toddlers can be a hindrance so I’m not unhappy about this development, though I am disappointed that Stan isn’t returning —- even though I knew he wouldn’t be.

I don’t remember Adam being this good looking, but then he’s younger here than I remember. And I’m a lot older than during my Xrds-viewing days.

His arrival feels especially special having recently watched Nolly, which has added more layers to the scenes between Adam and Meg.

Their first major arc has been a suspected blackmailer of Hugh’s “DD” to whom he’s been sending money. This has turned out to be another new arrival: the appropriately-named Mrs Crisp* (maiden surname “Delaney” or something) who claims to be the mother of Hugh’s eighteen year old daughter.

This led to an unintentionally hilarious dialogue fluff from Noele Gordon when she gravely told Tish and Adam the truth about Mrs Crisp:

Meg said:
She’s the father of Hugh’s child.

The camera lingered on Meg and Nolly didn’t seem to realise what she’d just said. I’d dearly love to have seen the immediate facial reactions from Joy Andrews and Tony Adams, but it was a good many seconds before we cut to a long shot. Someone must have noticed, but the scene continued and stayed as it was. And I made my peace with it by recognising that people frequently make Freudian slips in real life and polite acquaintances rarely point this out, even if they have a little chortle about it afterwards. And I hope they did.






* Mrs Crisp has such captivatingly elegant featured (almost feline in a Rosalyn Landor kind of way). She’s extremely beautiful. Seeing the actress was named Kay Dotrice, I looked her up to confirm she was related to Michelle and Karen and indeed she’s their mother.
 

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Have been continuing watching Crossroads and finally - finally - Mrs Mad as a brush Bailley is no more - she was very hard work

Wow BF. You're going at quite a pace. At this rate you'll be overtaking me any day now.



Im finding Bernard - Control freak - Booth rather hard going

Oh, I love Bernard. He's such a great character. I thoroughly enjoy the reactions to his pompous attitude in the kitchen, and I feel really sorry for him with Helen since she seems to be holding all the power in that relationship, throwing him crumbs while he does everything to try and please her (which seems to be impossible).



rather enjoyed Diane with Steve with the curly hair Cater together

He's a really nice addition to the cast and I'm fascinated by the intensity behind his eyes. It would be interesting to watch an interview with Bruce Lidington to see how he comes across.



I was very sad to read this and he was only 46 when he died

Yes. It's very sad ndeed.

It's especially interesting to read about his interest in politics and his work as an activist, particularly in terms of social reforms regarding fathers' roles in separated relationships. Good for him for getting out there and making a difference.
 

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In memory of Paul O'Grady, BBC Sounds have posted a few highlights from his show on BBC Radio 2, including his celebration of Crossroads on it's 50th anniversary in 2014. The Crossroads segment begins at 56 minutes and includes chats with Jane Rossington, Susan Hanson, Tony Adams and Paul Henry but my favourite part is the rapid recap of all of the dramas from 1964 up until the revival in the 00's.

 

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One of the episodes circa #3060 has a fantastic Easter Egg hidden away at the beginning - even further back than than the VTR board. It has Noele Gordon speaking direct to camera as though we’re a guest who’s been away and reading from her notes about what’s been going on. It’s like a soapy Jackanory. I assume it aired before a significantly earlier episode since she ends by telling us about Doris Luke’s return and Mrs Bailey’s suicide.
I wonder if this was the first episode after the ITV strike which kept all programmes off the air for a few months at the end of the 1970s. The recap was to get viewers back up to speed after the missing it for so long.
 

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In memory of Paul O'Grady, BBC Sounds have posted a few highlights from his show on BBC Radio 2, including his celebration of Crossroads on it's 50th anniversary in 2014. The Crossroads segment begins at 56 minutes and includes chats with Jane Rossington, Susan Hanson, Tony Adams and Paul Henry but my favourite part is the rapid recap of all of the dramas from 1964 up until the revival in the 00's.

I've not heard this before. What a lovely and affectionate interview of the cast members. Paul O'Grady clearly was a fan of the show.
 

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I've not heard this before. What a lovely and affectionate interview of the cast members. Paul O'Grady clearly was a fan of the show.
Yes, he appears to have really liked the original. Here's two other Crossroads bits that he did - the inclusion of the Kings Oak theme on his Lost TV Theme segment on Radio 2 and then Jane and Kathy Staff appearing on his teatime TV show.


 

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Wow BF. You're going at quite a pace. At this rate you'll be overtaking me any day now.
Oh No , I like to be a few steps behind you and look out for all your comments -

What a lovely interview with Kathy Staff and Jane Rossington

This is a lovely little interview which I cant see on Youtube - and she also discusses her cancer diagnosis with candour and the treatment in hospital

Call Me Nolly - Noele Gordon In Her Own Words


I just love her! x
 

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Oh, I love Bernard. He's such a great character. I thoroughly enjoy the reactions to his pompous attitude in the kitchen, and I feel really sorry for him with Helen since she seems to be holding all the power in that relationship, throwing him crumbs while he does everything to try and please her (which seems to be impossible).

I think he is a bit creepy and controlling -and they are never going to have a child sleeping in twin beds at the motel ;)

Also realised that Mr Bailley is none other than Jess Conrad who used to be on TV shows as a singer in the 70/80s x
 

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Oh No , I like to be a few steps behind you and look out for all your comments

Oh, thanks. I'm on the last disc of Box One now. I really didn't think Xrds would be this easy and enjoyable to soak up.


What a lovely interview with Kathy Staff and Jane Rossington

This is a lovely little interview which I cant see on Youtube - and she also discusses her cancer diagnosis with candour and the treatment in hospital

Call Me Nolly - Noele Gordon In Her Own Words

Oh darn. I must be too late as it says "video no longer available". Ah well.


I think he is a bit creepy and controlling

Considering how controlling he is in the kitchen, I've found it good to see a more vulnerable side to him with Helen. Yes, he's still controlling in his marriage, but there's an undercurrent that he feels protective or responsible for her, and Helen enables it because it's convenient for her to do so with him whisking her away from her old life and setting her up with quite a nice job at the motel. I'm not sure how much you'll have seen, but there's a business involving a pen where he makes himself look quite foolish by covering up for something she's done. It comes across that he's really putting her interests above his own. There's a gallantry to it, but I can understand why she'd grow to resent the situation because it's diminished her independence and taken choices out of her hands.

It's one of those situations where I can see both sides, and I see two flawed people.



and they are never going to have a child sleeping in twin beds at the motel ;)

Ha ha. I've just watched an episode where their penchant for twin beds is commented upon when they're staying away "You Southerners. Married couples wanting twin beds. No wonder you're a dying breed".



Also realised that Mr Bailley is none other than Jess Conrad who used to be on TV shows as a singer in the 70/80s x

I thought the confrontation in the surgery was really good. I must confess I thought he had a gun or something when he walked in with his hand in the pocket of his overcoat. I wonder if we were meant to think that.

Incidentally, that episode has some Easter Eggs before it. There are ten minutes of alternative takes of Mr Bailey's scenes at the surgery, which I found rather fascinating.




I wonder if this was the first episode after the ITV strike which kept all programmes off the air for a few months at the end of the 1970s. The recap was to get viewers back up to speed after the missing it for so long.

Aha. That would explain it. I thought it was a lovely touch... a bit like Jackanory for adults. And I wouldn't have minded more of this,




the inclusion of the Kings Oak theme on his Lost TV Theme segment

Oh my. I'd forgotten all about this but it came straight back to me when it started playing.

It's not as catchy as the original, but perhaps it just needs a Wings electric guitar cover to make it fly.
 

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Bernard has just asked for a new item for the kitchen ..................a microwave 1978! very high tech

Miss Luke isnt too sure about them - and thinks they might even cause flat feet! and neither is David Hunter of this new space fangled technology

I do enjoy Sharon and Victor in the garage, they have a good rapport and she is sensible and down to earth, not too sure baout his sister in laws motives though

Someone said on another Crossroads web site she looks like Yootha Joyce's sister and they are right!!

Another nice wee interview x

 

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bernard has just asked for a new item for the kitchen ..................a microwave 1978! very high tech

First lasagne and now this. It's all too much.

Who'd have thought stuffy old Bernard Booth would be pushing for all this innovation.



Someone said on another Crossroads web site she looks like Yootha Joyce's sister and they are right!!

Absolutely. I mentioned above that during her first episode I was distracted by trying to decide whether or not it was Yootha.
 

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Oh darn. I must be too late as it says "video no longer available". Ah well.
I do hope you can get to see Call me Nolly - Noele Gordon in her own words, its on a FB site

Its very cleverly edited with her appearances on various chat shows over the years and the end is very moving and poignant and ends up with BBC announcing her death and clips of her funeral (over 2000 people turned up) in Ross on Wye and then the memorial service in Birmingham catherdral a month later - packed with the great and the good and so many fans turning up - Jane Rossington, Tony Adams and Shaw Taylor give speeches and he reads out a Lord Byron poem sent by Pat Phoenix who was unable to attend

We'll go no more a roving, in the stillness of the night
Though the heart be still as loving, And the moon be still as bright.

The final clip of her is talking with Gloria Hunniford (Gus Honeybun to Terry Wogan) about her treatment - and she looks fantastic, you would never know she is ill

"its not painful, the worst thing about is a claustrophobia about it, you cant move for about 24 hours as you are in bed and when you go home you have a thundering hangover without the fun.

The specilaists and advisors tell her The most improtant thing is to believe you are going to get well =- I am going to fight this and im going to get well

90% of it is fight and hope, and I know a lot of people do lose"

I cried! A gutsy lady til the end
 
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