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I've been a fan since since the beginning but stopped watching after David Tennant
Totally disappointed by making The Doctor a woman. How absurd !! A female Doctor wasn't accepted when Romana, a Time Lord, was Bakers companion. No spin off was created.
This last venture is a complete failure and a sad ending of Dr. Who.
Completely agree, Jodie Whitaker is mediocre actress at best, and completely incompetent in the role.
JW and Chris Chibnall may have done irreparable damage to the franchise,
with record low ratings, record low appreciation index, disrespecting longtime fans, scripts that are agonizingly poor,
written and directed by mediocre writers/directors, many with no science fiction background,
and turning what was once a special, enjoyable sci-fi program into a woke farce
RTD may be one of very few showrunners who can resurrect it
Don't know anything about Ncuti Gatwa, hope he does well.
 

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RTD is the most woke writer in television today, he will have absolutely no qualms in being so in Doctor Who either, like he was the 1st time around.

Woke shouldn't always be seen as negative....RTD certainly doesn't think so.
 

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well the next one is gay apparently , Matt Smith was a good doctor so was Peter Capaldi but the latter didn't always have a great storyline he was good in the role. Jodie is decent but i don't fault her on the show she's just reading what they give her she's fine. but i do agree shitball is pretty bad as a show runner. i missed this past season but her 1st season was dreadful with i think 2 or 3 good episodes her 2nd year was for me a lot better i dunno about this pats season just yet. the ones with Chris Noth i loved but than i'm a fan of his despite what they are claiming he did i enjoy his work i dunno if that is true or not.
 
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Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi both brought different strengths to the show.
Both were produced by Steven Moffat, who did some good work, but also made some
horrible decisions IMHO

I like Michelle Gomez, but the Master should not be female - it fundamentally changes the nature of the Doctor-Master dynamic. I wish she had been the Rani, a rogue Romana or Susan - maybe an alternate Clara - it would have led to some terrific storylines.

I didn't care for the 50th anniversary - No classic Doctors, except for Tom Baker,
whose Curator scene was the highlight for me. Not the best writing for Tennant,
William Hurt does nothing for me a a "lost" Doctor,
not enough of classic villains.
Billie Piper was wasted in the "invisible" role
No classic companions
Couldn't William Russell have been cast?
No Paul McGann (The Night of the Doctor" minisode was not enough)

Moffat did do a good job of exploring time paradoxes,
time travel issues, present v past v future scenarios etc

David Bradley as the First Doctor was a good choice - I wish the writing had been better for him
 

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Well I haven't cried, cheered and laughed so many times within 90 minutes. The Power of the Doctor was genius - absolutely glorious episode to end the era. Roll on 2023.
 

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I gave up on Dr Who long ago as it became so woke and preachy and I really didnt like Jodie Whittaker as the Dr, and as @Jock Ewing Fan said a very mediocre actress with I feel not enough presence or gravitas to carry the role

saw the headlines last night re Dr Who and tuned in later to see the ending

may just need to watch the next season after all
 

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I gave up on Dr Who long ago as it became so woke and preachy and I really didnt like Jodie Whittaker as the Dr, and as @Jock Ewing Fan said a very mediocre actress with I feel not enough presence or gravitas to carry the role

saw the headlines last night re Dr Who and tuned in later to see the ending

may just need to watch the next season after all
Yes, Chibnall and Whitaker are the worst Showrunner and Doctor ever.

David Tennant's return gives us hope
 
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may just need to watch the next season after all
It's not going to be a "season" next year like we're accustomed to. I'd have to look it up to be sure, but I don't think there will be anything until November of next year, and only then because of the 60th anniversary (Nov. 22). The infrequency of the series is yet another handicap they need to overcome.
 

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I found it strangely moving seeing that I wasn't familiar with any of the classic characters.
I've never had a problem with the concept of the Doctor being a woman, or with Jodie Whittaker's performance. I think the deficit has been in the writing - as it usually is. Her stories just seemed less intrinsically interesting than in the Capaldi era. And I think the whole "fam" idea was a mistake - I know I'm not the first to suggest that it should just have been the Doctor and Yaz from the beginning.
 

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It's not going to be a "season" next year like we're accustomed to. I'd have to look it up to be sure, but I don't think there will be anything until November of next year, and only then because of the 60th anniversary (Nov. 22). The infrequency of the series is yet another handicap they need to overcome.
I would say that the infrequency of the series may be a benefit at this point.

Chibnall and Whitaker have destroyed the show with their incompetence, wokeness and disrespect for the fans
The timeless child is a disaster which contradicts the entire history of the series.

The good news is that RTD has been hired to rescue the series and David Tennant's return is
probably a strategy to re-establish the good name of Doctor Who.

It may take time to fix a broken show, thus the infrequency
 

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The Sixtieth Diamond Anniversary next year is getting a very special logo.

Feast your eyes everybody, if you haven't already seen it on social media.

Doctor Who 60th Anniversary logo.jpg

It's the return of the iconic Diamond logo from the 1970's, very approprate for the anniversary isn't it? :)
 
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The news dropped yesterday that all the new episodes of DW will henceforth be exclusively available on Disney+, the streaming service (outside the UK of course), which is a drag because I'm not going to sign up for a streaming service just to see one show (even if it is a favorite of mine). Up to now, the episodes had same-day airings on the cable network BBC America. Granted, BBC-A is a shell of its former self, a prominent example of "mission creep" like non-music MTV and non-arts, non-entertaining A&E. Other than DW, Graham Norton and David Attenborough documentaries, I can't think of a single BBC show they air. Well, last Sunday's episode is the last Doctor Who BBC-A will ever air, apparently, so they might as well change their name to "the endless Star Trek Reruns Channel" and be done with it.
 

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The news dropped yesterday that all the new episodes of DW will henceforth be exclusively available on Disney+, the streaming service (outside the UK of course), which is a drag because I'm not going to sign up for a streaming service just to see one show (even if it is a favorite of mine). Up to now, the episodes had same-day airings on the cable network BBC America. Granted, BBC-A is a shell of its former self, a prominent example of "mission creep" like non-music MTV and non-arts, non-entertaining A&E. Other than DW, Graham Norton and David Attenborough documentaries, I can't think of a single BBC show they air. Well, last Sunday's episode is the last Doctor Who BBC-A will ever air, apparently, so they might as well change their name to "the endless Star Trek Reruns Channel" and be done with it.
Yet another example of how Doctor Who has not changed for the better.
I would be hesitant to subscribe to any streaming service, but that goes even more for Disney.
Walt Disney would be horrified at the state of his company today.

RTD may be able to resurrect Doctor Who, but there is a lot of work to be done
 

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It's not going to be a "season" next year like we're accustomed to. I'd have to look it up to be sure, but I don't think there will be anything until November of next year, and only then because of the 60th anniversary (Nov. 22). The infrequency of the series is yet another handicap they need to overcome.
3 specials with David Tennant. Then Ncuti Gatwa debuts towards the end of the year, Sixtieth Anniversary itself falls on November 23rd. The Day of the Doctor aired on the actual 50th anniversary, Saturday 23rd November 2013. That was a mad day. Doctor Who content on terrestrial channels, freeview/satellite, multiple radio channels, BBC News. Audio adventures broadcast on radio. Plus the mostly recently discovered The Enemy of the World story arrived on DVD via post, starring Patrick Troughton, two days ahead of its release date. And I got flown to a cinema to watch The Day of the Doctor in 3D. And returned home to find The Five-ish Doctors Reboot and that Joel Dommett had basically sat on Katy Manning (Jo Grant/Jo Jones). I was frequently recording from 3 or 4 channels at the same time to capture it.
 
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The fourteenth Doctor did surprise me to say the least. :)
I was expecting it. It had been rumoured for ages that David Tennant was doing three specials and it was then announced that he was returning. And he was spotted filming in varying locations. Plus Ncuti Gatwa was seen doing some filming but it was announced that he also had other tv commitments.
 

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I've never seen any of The Doctors as "special", I've always enjoyed the fact that every one of them is so different.

But in the case of Hartnell he was the first Doctor to leave Gallifrey on his own terms and begin his adventures as The Doctor that we know and love. The Timeless Child story doesn't change that - everything we know about the character over the years has always changed here and there.

The fact that The Doctor isn't a gallifreyan, but was unwittingly used to give them the power of regeneration still doesn't change the character so much either. The fact that we have no idea where The Doctor came from will probably forever be a mystery unless a showrunner in the future returns to it, but I can't see Jodie's finale answering that and neither do I think it should ever be answered, it's a great new mystery like his past was when the series began in 1963.

The actual character of The Doctor hasn't changed = travelling across time and space defeating evil and having great adventures. I'm sure one day a newn backstory will emerge, but as we prepare to celebrate 60 years (WOW) it's good to know that there are still some great ideas that keep changing the narrative, not many shows can do that.

the Time Lords have always been a tough watch on TV, I would love to see a showrunner really do something different with them, in a show where they have all of time and space to explore I'd love to see how they brought about time travel with Rassilon, omega, the other etc - I'm sure someone will go there at some point.
Although Gallifrey itself wasn’t mentioned until series ten, with Jon Pertwee. And The Doctor’s origin came about as a way to exile The Doctor to Earth, at the end of series six. A long time after Hartnell’s Doctor had exited. They used an audio double to make Hartnell’s Doctor say Gallifrey in The Day of the Doctor.
The fourteenth Doctor did surprise me to say the least. :)

 
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The news dropped yesterday that all the new episodes of DW will henceforth be exclusively available on Disney+, the streaming service (outside the UK of course), which is a drag because I'm not going to sign up for a streaming service just to see one show (even if it is a favorite of mine). Up to now, the episodes had same-day airings on the cable network BBC America. Granted, BBC-A is a shell of its former self, a prominent example of "mission creep" like non-music MTV and non-arts, non-entertaining A&E. Other than DW, Graham Norton and David Attenborough documentaries, I can't think of a single BBC show they air. Well, last Sunday's episode is the last Doctor Who BBC-A will ever air, apparently, so they might as well change their name to "the endless Star Trek Reruns Channel" and be done with it.
The same is happening here. Doctor Who has hitherto been seen on the free-to-air ABC. I can't see myself signing up to Disney+ at this point either so this may as well have been a series finale.
I was expecting it. It had been rumoured for ages that David Tennant was doing three specials and it was then announced that he was returning. And he was spotted filming in varying locations. Plus Ncuti Gatwa was seen doing some filming but it was announced that he also had other tv commitments.
I'd heard so much about it that I wasn't at all surprised. Is "the fourteenth Doctor" what he's officially to be called? Like Grover Cleveland who is both the 22nd and 24th US president?
 

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So the final story of the catastrophic run of Chibnall and Whitaker.

How Bad?

Ratings (Same day) of previous finales (Millions)

Eccleston; 6.91

Tennant 12.27

M Smith 8.30

Capaldi 5.70

Chibnall/Whitaker 3.7

Let that sink in for a minute. Not only is that a 35% drop from Capaldi's and a 46% drop from Eccleston, but also was a special episode

from the BBC's 100 year anniversary, with lots of publicity, and cameos from past Doctors, Companions, Daleks, Cybermen, The Master, etc.

It is also a 55% drop from JW debut episode.

On BBC America,The finale registered a feeble 317,000 viewers, a season average of a paltry 332,000.

By contrast, Capaldi's finale had 1.145 million viewers on BBC America, a season average (#10) of 653,000

Capaldi's finale more than tripled JW, the final season for Capaldi more than doubled JW, both on BBC America

David Tennant and Matt Smith numbers were even higher.

Merchandising has declined staggeringly. Dr Who merchandise was once plentiful,

now it is barely there. Just look in any relevant store, and you will... not see it,

The spin that only a few disgruntled fans has been proven to false, actually extremely false

The Woke agenda, poor casting, worse acting, writers and directors, various crew etc. with no or limited sci-fi experience,

the disrespect for longtime fans, Chibnall's Timeless Child retcon which not only contradicts the entire history of the Series

but also means that the Doctor can endlessly regenerate without ever facing any real danger to HIS life undermines any real drama.

If anyone can rescue the show, it is RTD, but he MUST eradicate the Timeless Child myth.

Whether he can or will... who knows.

It is almost fitting that DW will go to Disney, a woke company that its founder would be horrified to see today.

David Tennant will restore credibility to the show, at least temporarily.

I don't know anything about Ncuti Gatwa, but he couldn't be worse than JW - I don't mean to diss with faint praise.
I wish him well.

Maybe Doctor Who can recover its integrity, I do have confidence in RTD


As for Chibnall Whitaker and the entire cast and crew of this disgraceful era



GOOD RIDDANCE!!!
 
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