The US 2016 Election Thread

SueEllenRules!

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I also think Evan McMullin could win Utah.
That's a really good point. Maybe Hillary should encourage her supporters in Utah to vote for McMullin. lol

That said, I think the popular vote will be close but the electoral college will give Hillary a significant majority.
I think the result will be similar to Obama's in 2012: 3.9% advantage in the popular vote and 332 electoral votes. Although, I'd love it if the blowout were even bigger.
 

Angela Channing

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In a nutshell. I believe that Trump makes himself an easier target by being so overt in his dehumanizing bullshit, but research into Hillary's past reveals she's far from a saint herself.

Now the political hack commentators like Keith Olbermann and Bill Maher are strongly condemning anyone who isn't voting for Hillary. These are people I once listened to and respected, but I just can't anymore. It's not even because they support Hillary, it's because they tell those of us who don't to "grow up" and to stop using the "false equivalence" argument. Maher was particularly critical of millennials, and said they were lazy and hadn't done their research on Hillary. Well screw you Bill Maher. I have researched her, as have other millennials, and that is precisely why we don't support her. Olbermann has tried to convince Jill Stein to drop out of the race out of fear that she will take votes away from Hillary. Has he stopped to think that progressives voting for Stein wouldn't have necessarily voted for Hillary in the first place? A vote is earned, not guaranteed.

Even Obama has got in on the act, asking men to consider whether sexism has played a role in our opposition to Hillary. Silly me. I thought elections were about voting for policy positions, not genitalia. And if anti-Hillary males are so sexist, why are so many of us eager to vote for Jill Stein? Obama's resorting to gender baiting to prop up Hillary because she was an ally in his hawkish foreign policy and surveillance program.

This is why the establishment sucks. It would almost be worth seeing Trump become president just to give a big middle finger to the political hacks in Washington that push for the status quo.

I see your point of view but there is another side to your argument. The election will either be won by Trump or Hillary so choosing to vote for anyone other that her is effectively boosting Trump's chance of winning. Hillary is a flawed candidate but nowhere as bad as Trump, so for all her faults I hope as many people as possible will vote for her.

If Trump wins, I fear a wave of racism will be unleashed in the USA by people emboldened by a candidate that has made bigoted views of Muslims a centrepiece of his campaign. We have seen it in the UK following the EU Leave vote which was largely won by whipping up people's fears about foreigners. He must be stopped and Hillary is the best hope to achieve that.
 

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WHY WOULD SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T WANT HILLARY TO WIN VOTE FOR HER??

LETS SEE, I HATE BOTH CANDIDATES SO I SHOULD VOTE FOR ANGELACHANNING's FAVORITE...

STUPID

I see your point of view but there is another side to your argument. The election will either be won by Trump or Hillary so choosing to vote for anyone other that her is effectively boosting Trump's chance of winning. Hillary is a flawed candidate but nowhere as bad as Trump, so for all her faults I hope as many people as possible will vote for her.

If Trump wins, I fear a wave of racism will be unleashed in the USA by people emboldened by a candidate that has made bigoted views of Muslims a centrepiece of his campaign. We have seen it in the UK following the EU Leave vote which was largely won by whipping up people's fears about foreigners. He must be stopped and Hillary is the best hope to achieve that.
 

Angela Channing

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WHY WOULD SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T WANT HILLARY TO WIN VOTE FOR HER??

LETS SEE, I HATE BOTH CANDIDATES SO I SHOULD VOTE FOR ANGELACHANNING's FAVORITE...

STUPID

No, someone doesn't like either candidate but they dislike Trump even more than they dislike Hillary therefore to stop him, they are going to vote for Hillary as she is the only one that can beat him. That seems like a perfectly reasonable position to take.
 

McGarrett

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No, I don't like either candidate but I dislike Trump even more than I dislike Hillary therefore to stop him, I'm going to vote for Hillary as she is the only one that can beat him. That seems like a perfectly reasonable position to take.
THAT IS YOU..

AND HE CHOSE HIS CANDIDATE..

THE ONLY WAY THIS STUPID ESTABLISHMENT PROCESS CAN EVER CHANGE..

I RESPECT HIM FOR IT..
 

SueEllenRules!

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Even Obama has got in on the act, asking men to consider whether sexism has played a role in our opposition to Hillary.
That's not a perfectly valid question?

Silly me. I thought elections were about voting for policy positions, not genitalia.
It would be one thing if you were expected to vote for a candidate because she's a woman. It's another thing entirely when you're being asked to vote for a candidate despite the fact that she's a woman.

And if anti-Hillary males are so sexist, why are so many of us eager to vote for Jill Stein?
Many men aren't intimidated by women in general. However, when it comes to a highly intelligent, highly capable, highly accomplished woman like Hillary Clinton, that's a horse of an entirely different color. [cue McGarrett or another of his sexist pals to disparage Hillary Clinton by comparing her to a horse]

This is why the establishment sucks. It would almost be worth seeing Trump become president just to give a big middle finger to the political hacks in Washington that push for the status quo.
Oh, dear God. Seriously? :eck:
 
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