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McGarrett

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Tatianna

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Yes he changed it for the better regardless.. I want him to win.. But I am glad they will go back to the drawing board..

Hillary is the status quo failure.. But Hollywood and the media selected her..

However, some may not have been the robots I originally thought..

I agree, whether Trump wins or losses, he has been an eye opener when it comes to telling it like it is about both parties. I believe in being a responsible voter, a person should listen without prejudice regardless of the party speaking. It's healthy to know both sides of an issue. I really look at past history and success and/or failure and why, when a candidate is up for vote. Life is never a one issue matter, therefore I never vote for one issue on a candidate's platform. I also never vote for a candidate who has a history of corrupt practices whether it's a "there, there" or not. I also recognize pandering for votes with no intention of follow through. I know a lot of time and taxpayer dollars are spent on investigations which go no where, but that is what Congressional Oversight is for and what they are paid to do.

I am skeptical of candidates who cozy up to the Hollywood culture, millionaires and then try to make the average everyday American believe "they feel your pain" and/or they live under the same rules and budget, and can really relate. Both sides do this and I believe the American voter is largely responsible. At least Trump will talk about what he wants to do, that is when he's not talking about himself, but I have not heard the first substative speech from Hillary. She spends all of her rallies predominately bashing Trump and talking about what his platform is. I want to hear hers and I don't mean I want to hear about equal pay for women, because records show she does not pay her female staffers equal to her male staffers. I don't believe for a moment that Trump is going to revise the tax codes that he has benefited from, but I do agree he would be an idiot of not using shelters put in place by the US Treasury. I don't believe for a moment that Bill and Hillary were "dead broke" when they left the White House and now are so fantastically super wealthy now. While the GCI may be very beneficial to the 3rd. world countries, I believe that is a real plus and good thing, however, we have a large segment of homeless, mentally ill people and victims of natural disaster who have been disregarded and forgotten here in America that could use help, but it is the generosity of the taxpayers who pick up the tab on that. They want to "spread the wealth around", yet their wealthy friends know that only a talking point to make the little people feel better. Not going to happen. Obama has had 8 years to spread and the Clinton's have had almost 30 years to spread, but they just continue to accumulate.

Trump boasts about being a billionaire and frankly I don't know or care if he is or not, but I do know he is a brand and he has shaken up this country the way no one has ever done in my lifetime. Hillary is a big government person, who feels more comfortable with big banks and Wall Street than with the little people she so desperately wants to govern. Her undisclosed transcripts which she repeatedly refuses to make public is a given that they are not regarding social issues, jobs, and the well being for the people of this country.

Every voter in this country owes it to themselves and the country to glean all of the knowledge on both candidates and keep an open mind before voting.
 

McGarrett

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I long for the traditional democrats like my parents who put country first..

I actually thought that of Sanders, but I feel he was silenced.. He was a bigger mania than Obama and lost to this inept crook??

I agree, whether Trump wins or losses, he has been an eye opener when it comes to telling it like it is about both parties. I believe in being a responsible voter, a person should listen without prejudice regardless of the party speaking. It's healthy to know both sides of an issue. I really look at past history and success and/or failure and why, when a candidate is up for vote. Life is never a one issue matter, therefore I never vote for one issue on a candidate's platform. I also never vote for a candidate who has a history of corrupt practices whether it's a "there, there" or not. I also recognize pandering for votes with no intention of follow through. I know a lot of time and taxpayer dollars are spent on investigations which go no where, but that is what Congressional Oversight is for and what they are paid to do.

I am skeptical of candidates who cozy up to the Hollywood culture, millionaires and then try to make the average everyday American believe "they feel your pain" and/or they live under the same rules and budget, and can really relate. Both sides do this and I believe the American voter is largely responsible. At least Trump will talk about what he wants to do, that is when he's not talking about himself, but I have not heard the first substative speech from Hillary. She spends all of her rallies predominately bashing Trump and talking about what his platform is. I want to hear hers and I don't mean I want to hear about equal pay for women, because records show she does not pay her female staffers equal to her male staffers. I don't believe for a moment that Trump is going to revise the tax codes that he has benefited from, but I do agree he would be an idiot of not using shelters put in place by the US Treasury. I don't believe for a moment that Bill and Hillary were "dead broke" when they left the White House and now are so fantastically super wealthy now. While the GCI may be very beneficial to the 3rd. world countries, I believe that is a real plus and good thing, however, we have a large segment of homeless, mentally ill people and victims of natural disaster who have been disregarded and forgotten here in America that could use help, but it is the generosity of the taxpayers who pick up the tab on that. They want to "spread the wealth around", yet their wealthy friends know that only a talking point to make the little people feel better. Not going to happen. Obama has had 8 years to spread and the Clinton's have had almost 30 years to spread, but they just continue to accumulate.

Trump boasts about being a billionaire and frankly I don't know or care if he is or not, but I do know he is a brand and he has shaken up this country the way no one has ever done in my lifetime. Hillary is a big government person, who feels more comfortable with big banks and Wall Street than with the little people she so desperately wants to govern. Her undisclosed transcripts which she repeatedly refuses to make public is a given that they are not regarding social issues, jobs, and the well being for the people of this country.

Every voter in this country owes it to themselves and the country to glean all of the knowledge on both candidates and keep an open mind before voting.
 

Tatianna

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Which is what exactly?

IMO, that they have been derelict in their performance. They were split long before Trump came along.



That I agree with. Although, I would argue that their primary objective is to thwart anything Obama wants to do.

For the most part they can't and don't agree among themselves, much less across the aisle.

The "throw the bums out" mentality seems to be what got the Republican Party to where they are today: on the cusp of losing the presidential election and possibly control of the Senate. From my point of view, the real problem is the Republicans want everything their way, period. There's no room for compromise at all. So they elect politicians they expect to stringently follow a "my way or the highway" agenda and if they don't, they want to toss them out on their ear. And then they wonder why nothing gets done in Congress. In the case of Trump, I suppose they thought they'd finally found someone who would do things their way, which is probably a crock in all probability. And then there's the added problem that he's unelectable, which I don't understand why people couldn't see that from a mile away.

I think "throw the bums out" have dual definition, depending who's saying it. Both parties want things their way. On some issues there really may not be any room for compromise, and some things are. For one thing, ramming through Obamacare, was the Democrat's "my way or the highway" and it was shoved through on a Friday during the Christmas holidays and it's not working. Well, the country will probably never be ready for Cruz, Jeb Bush, Mike Huckabee was humiliated to almost the point of tears, Rubio is not ready, he jumped in to soon, Rand Paul seemed to appeal to some, but not to all. Trump was able to talk about issues the others didn't want to talk about. There's still a large following that are going to vote for him and for that you'd have to ask them, I mean, just like Bernie, Trump is hanging on.
 

Tatianna

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I long for the traditional democrats like my parents who put country first..

I actually thought that of Sanders, but I feel he was silenced.. He was a bigger mania than Obama and lost to this inept crook??

No argument there. That was the world as we knew it and a man's word had a meaning. More people made deals you could trust and sealed with a handshake.:)
 

Tatianna

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No, that's according to Trump. Don't know if you've heard this today, but this morning, it was reported concern growing over revelations that voting machines in a significant number of states could be linked to a company tied directly to billionaire leftist George Soros and his personal quest to create a nationless, borderless global state. It may or may not have any effect at all, but that's what was mentioned and it is on the internet. Now, Soros may be as innocent as the driven snow, but a UK based company,Smartmatic posted a flow-chart on its website that it had provided voting machines for 16 states, including important battleground states like Florida and Arizona. Smartmatic Chairman Mark Malloch-Brown is a former U.N. official and sits on the board of Soros’ Open Society Foundations. Since the story first broke, the flow-chart has disappeared from Smartmatic’s website, raising further questions about the real status of the Soros-tied voting equipment and whether it is truly being deployed in U.S. elections. Smartmatic is not on a list of federally certified providers for election systems.

May or may not mean a thing, but if it's anyway close, I would not be surprised if both sides don't demand a recount.
 
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