Dallas News Is there 'an announcement' imminent..?

[Kenny Coyote]

I see no more “buzz” for my ideas than yours or any others.

But I don't write Dallas themed stories - you do write them in the Dallas writer's room here. I'm not particularly interested in reading fan fiction but I know you like writing it, so when you brought the outline of the main characters for your idea for a new show here - I wanted to lead a helping hand and I did an evaluation of it for you - for free. Just a friendly gesture on my part. How may others have been willing to do that for you besides me on this latest idea of yours? So far, I'm counting...none! Why do you suppose that is?

Why does nobody seem to want to lend you a helping hand? I was the only one who put time into it and everyone saw how you treated me. You really don't get it: I was donating my time to help you and you reacted like an ungrateful, petulant child. Now isn't it funny that every other time I've done that when I've had positive things to say, you appreciated it, but as soon as I have something critical to say, you can't stand it?

I can see why there isn't exactly a long line of people waiting to help critique your idea for a show. You respond so poorly to any criticism.

You said of your Dallas fiction:

I do believe it would be marketable to many loyal Dallas fans, far greater than what CC created, and I believe it would be marketable to many new fans, because like Jacobs, it takes the ideas of others, gives them a twist, and infuses real stories to create something new

I asked why do you think you'd be marketable to the general populace, when even here, among people who love Dallas, your stories have generated no buzz here, no momentum? Why aren't these stories that would be "marketable to many Dallas fans" not generating any excitement here?

Is it the fault the forum members? Are they just not loyal enough or passionate enough Dallas fans? Or is that maybe you've got a whole lot to learn if you want to be anywhere close to as marketable as you claim to be?

 

[stevew]

But I don't write Dallas themed stories - you do write them in the Dallas writer's room here. I'm not particularly interested in reading fan fiction but I know you like writing it, so when you brought the outline of the main characters for your idea for a new show here - I wanted to lead a helping hand and I did an evaluation of it for you - for free. Just a friendly gesture on my part. How may others have been willing to do that for you besides me on this latest idea of yours? So far, I'm counting...none! Why do you suppose that is?

Why does nobody seem to want to lend you a helping hand? I was the only one who put time into it and everyone saw how you treated me. You really don't get it: I was donating my time to help you and you reacted like an ungrateful, petulant child. Now isn't it funny that every other time I've done that when I've had positive things to say, you appreciated it, but as soon as I have something critical to say, you can't stand it?

I can see why there isn't exactly a long line of people waiting to help critique your idea for a show. You respond so poorly to any criticism.

You said of your Dallas fiction:



I asked why do you think you'd be marketable to the general populace, when even here, among people who love Dallas, your stories have generated no buzz here, no momentum? Why aren't these stories that would be "marketable to many Dallas fans" not generating any excitement here?

Is it the fault the forum members? Are they just not loyal enough or passionate enough Dallas fans? Or is that maybe you've got a whole lot to learn if you want to be anywhere close to as marketable as you claim to be?

Stop fooling yourself and stop talking as if you represent anyone but yourself. Parts of your posts were friendly and taken as such and parts were arrogant. Now you talk about “donating” your time. You’re a highly offensive person, full of yourself. I’ve got a great deal of worthwhile input from a great many people over the years, some positive and some critical. I support my positions or I rewrite my ideas - something I’ve done often. Someone once suggested I stop changing up my stories so often and stick to one thread. I respected that opinion but it’s not me so I kept changing ideas. That person didn’t demand gratitude or find offense when I disagreed and continued. Yes parts of what you offer have made a helpful discussion, then you move into some sort rant from some place of self appointed authority. Saying I should be grateful. What arrogance. And you still don’t get it. In fact you double down. And I’m sure you’ll continue it. Btw I know women like Sue Ellen (a bit more blue blood than I’m guessing Sue Ellen started out but really we don’t know, every bit as married off and socializing and even boozing, well maybe not that much booze) and I have no doubt they could handle Jock Ewing.

 

[Rove]

That's too bad. I'd be learning from every place I possibly could if I wanted to become a good writer. You've got an audience here that's interested in the style and subject matter of your writing. I'd be taking advantage of that to see what gets people excited and what doesn't. I'd be finding out which of my stories make people ask for more, which ones don't, and figuring out what it is that makes the difference.

The above would have been great advice for the creative writing department from TNT Dallas.

 

[Kenny Coyote]

The above would have been great advice for the creative writing department from TNT Dallas.

Thanks @Rove.

 

[tommie]

Just as a side month several months later, HBO Max (launched May 2020) is owned by Warners so I wonder if the slight "buzz" around Dallas was because of that.

 

[stevew]

Just as a side month several months later, HBO Max (launched May 2020) is owned by Warners so I wonder if the slight "buzz" around Dallas was because of that.

Interesting idea. If there was ever any chance of Dallas making another appearance, I would guess some sort of streaming source would be the best fit.

 

[stevew]

The above would have been great advice for the creative writing department from TNT Dallas.

Certainly true as it would seem to keep their jobs they would have been highly motivated. I write for myself and share it and in a way it almost seems like that is what we saw with Dallas TNT, writing for themselves, and using the Dallas brand to market it

 

[tommie]

Interesting idea. If there was ever any chance of Dallas making another appearance, I would guess some sort of streaming source would be the best fit.

It makes sense that they'd look into their well-known IPs to try and bring viewers in. They're about to dig up Gossip Girl for it at least.

 

[stevew]

It makes sense that they'd look into their well-known IPs to try and bring viewers in. They're about to dig up Gossip Girl for it at least.

I for one hope they do. I know many want it left alone and I can appreciate that. When I watch Dallas I usually stop with Bobby turning around in the shower and imagine that in the next season opener it was just a dream of Pam's that he was still alive and in the shower, not that the entire season was a dream (though I like the following season and bits of what followed and finished up the original run, it just feels like watching someone die). I turned out for the movies because it was like watching old friends get together again. And I turned out for TNT for the same reason. Still nothing has reached the level of what I saw seasons 1 - 9 but that's ok. I still enjoy them for what they are and wouldn't mind another opportunity. Who knows, maybe the next time they will reach the success of the original or some facsimile of such. And if not, I still have seasons 1 - 9 and my imagination to change up what I don't like to what I do like.

 

[Luke_Krebbs_Ewing]

If Dallas does ever come back. I suspect it will be a complete re-boot with all new actors playing the roles.

They should let it take a different course story wise from the original show, but ensure it stays true to David Jacobs legacy.

The CW Dynasty series is still on-going so that may prompt Warner's to take a good long look at the former hit drama series from the 1980's. They know Dallas was a massive worldwide hit & with the right people in charge & good writers it could be a hit again.

Fingers firmly crossed.

 

[pete lashmar]

I think it's hugely important that any reboot creates new plots and storylines so it can be it's own show.

I'm sure a character like JR will be shot again, some things like that would be very difficult to avoid, but a new version of the show needs to find it's own feet.

Most importantly, as I've said endlessly on here in the past, they need good solid actors, not fuzzy bimbo/macho men who can't act their way out of a paper bag.

Aim it at an older audience, not a younger one.

 

[Rove]

but a new version of the show needs to find it's own feet.

I agree. For starters the role of JR should be female and Pam would be played by an African American. A brave producer attempting any type of Dallas reboot needs to be on the front foot and tell prospective viewers this is a new telling of the Ewing/Barnes feud. I wouldn't mind the occasional nod to the original with regards to story however it needs to be told with a different perspective. Instead of Miss Ellie having breast cancer we have Jock suffer from testicular cancer...or something along those lines.

 

[Brian Kinney]

Don't know where else to show this article from 'New York Times', Dec. 18, 2020 but here as a reminder why it's worth to revive Dallas:

Comfort Viewing: 3 Reasons I Love ‘Dallas’​

Naturally I had to immediately watch Season 4’s “Who Done It?,” which drew 83.6 million viewers when it aired, the second-largest non-Super Bowl broadcast audience of all time. By the end of the week — OK, the end of the next day — I’d skipped around to more than a dozen episodes, and committed to a full-blown 14-season binge.

The number of seasons doesn’t tell the full “Dallas” story. Even in a broadcast era when most series aired at least 22 episodes a season — compared to the 10 to 13 that is standard for modern cable and streaming shows — “Dallas” took the “everything is bigger in Texas” sentiment to heart. (...)

“Dallas” erased an entire season with one seven-second shower. But as we near the end of a challenging year full of almost as much drama, who doesn’t wish we all had the chance to call a mulligan on this season of our lives?

 

[Alison Carr]

I am nearing the end of my pandemic rewatch of the entire series ! I have possibly enjoyed the show more this time than ever before, I got addicted all over again and was pretty much averaging 3 or 4 episodes a day. I am dreading getting to the end although I will do the 3 TNT seasons (for my sins) but really really wish some kind of announcement would happen to give us hope for the future, something new Dallas related, not a remake, a continuation...a real one! Being back Donna, Ray and Jenna! (With grown up kids in tow), Bobby and Su Ellen could be there (it wouldn't be right without them) and I'd have Afton return too, maybe bring some Knots Landing characters into the mix too....there are possibilities and there is an audience, as this forum proves! DALLAS 2021 PLEASE!

 

[Luke_Krebbs_Ewing]

I am nearing the end of my pandemic rewatch of the entire series ! I have possibly enjoyed the show more this time than ever before, I got addicted all over again and was pretty much averaging 3 or 4 episodes a day. I am dreading getting to the end although I will do the 3 TNT seasons (for my sins) but really really wish some kind of announcement would happen to give us hope for the future, something new Dallas related, not a remake, a continuation...a real one! Being back Donna, Ray and Jenna! (With grown up kids in tow), Bobby and Su Ellen could be there (it wouldn't be right without them) and I'd have Afton return too, maybe bring some Knots Landing characters into the mix too....there are possibilities and there is an audience, as this forum proves! DALLAS 2021 PLEASE!

It's a nice idea to do another continuation series but I honestly think the boat has sailed on that one.

Cidre had the opportunity to do a great continuation with the Cyntax TNT Dallas but instead squandered it.

If Josh Henderson & Jesse Metcalfe came back along with Linda Gray & Patrick Duffy another continuation series might have a chance. It really depends on the writing team.

I'm of the opinion if Dallas does come back it will be a complete new re-boot with new actors playing the iconic roles. I don't think another continuation series would work, we've lost too many of the core cast members from the Lorimar Dallas. I will always love the original hit series & although it pains me to say this any continuation series from it is now no longer commercially viable. A complete re-boot & re-tooling is the only way forward.

 

[Barbara Fan]

I dont want to see any remake, reboot or continuation of Dallas
For one CC cocked it up big time and it was unwatchable and it sucked and thats why it failed and once Larry died, really what was the point, he was the only main reason to watch, Bobby was insufferable this time round

But mainly because they got it so right 1st time tround and you cant beat on perfection - casting, scripts, storylines

Hendersons, Metcalfes et al arent Dallas - or a Dallas that I want to watch, and Gray and Duffy couldnt save it - not did i want to watch a family that i had never heard of in original Dallas and as for the plot changes they made - BBG - get the shotgun from that hall closet!

Bel Geddes, Davis, Hagman, Keel, Principal, Howard, Kanaly, Tilton, Kercheval, and Gray and Duffy first time round and supporting cast were Dallas - they breathed life and soul into their roles and gave us characters to care about or love to hate. They made the show #1. Thats why we are talking about Dallas 42 years later
I wouldnt be here typing about Dallas cast if it were Hendersons, Metcalfes, Brenda Bland et al - Id have given up after a few episodes

 

[Rove]

I will do the 3 TNT seasons (for my sins)

...and straight after watching TNT Dallas you will need to return to the confessional and seek forgiveness...or return to Telly Talk and join the growing list of those frustrated by its existence.

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

Hendersons, Metcalfes et al arent Dallas

I thought contemptuous, sensuous Josh Henderson was perfect for John Ross.

 

[Barbara Fan]

I thought contemptuous, sensuous Josh Henderson was perfect for John Ross.

He was OK, just OK, Larry brought the best out of him but John Ross will ALWAYS be Omri Katz to me, When Dallas was proper Dallas

Always thought Josh had a funny wee pixie type of nose BTW!!

 

[Sarah]

I am nearing the end of my pandemic rewatch of the entire series ! I have possibly enjoyed the show more this time than ever before, I got addicted all over again and was pretty much averaging 3 or 4 episodes a day. I am dreading getting to the end although I will do the 3 TNT seasons (for my sins) but really really wish some kind of announcement would happen to give us hope for the future, something new Dallas related, not a remake, a continuation...a real one! Being back Donna, Ray and Jenna! (With grown up kids in tow), Bobby and Su Ellen could be there (it wouldn't be right without them) and I'd have Afton return too, maybe bring some Knots Landing characters into the mix too....there are possibilities and there is an audience, as this forum proves! DALLAS 2021 PLEASE!

Love you, your posts are great, glad you are having fun with the show! Sue Ellen's name has a E, just sayin you know as the forum grammar guru and Guarder of the Queen.... :coffeelaugh:

I do agree about John Ross @Barbara Belle Of The Ball. I've met Josh and he is really really nice, a good actor but found the portrayal of John Ross too nasty. Not Josh's fault if that is how he was written for TNT but I wouldn't have envisaged him ever being that bad. To me he is always Omri too.