gloriaharris187
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What was JR and Miss Ellie's relationship?
JR and Miss Ellie
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Billy Wall
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They had as good as a relationship as could be expected. They loved each other, but JR was a very hard person to embrace.
Snarky Oracle!
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She was only 8 when she birthed him. Which explains a ton.
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Billy Wall
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She was only 8 when she birthed him. Which explains a ton.
That wouldn’t paint Jock in a bad light. Lol
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Billy Wall
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I meant “bad” light. Lol
Laurie Marr
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As Ellie’s bastard son fathered by Digger, it perhaps explains a lot about how JR turned out.
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alovelylady7991
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Simply put, Miss Ellie loved JR - she just didn't like him, very much. They had almost no interests in common, no real shared values - I'd imagine that "small talk" was almost impossible between the two. JR felt much the same way - he wanted her love & respect, but he believed what she personally valued - her moral code - didn't serve him, at all.
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In my opinion, JR was a victim of emotional indifference by Miss Ellie
Miss Ellie favored both Gary and Bobby ahead of JR
Miss Ellie enabled Jock being extra tough on JR
JR probably sought multiple women because he was trying to fill that gap
of denied motherly love, as a psychologist might say.
Miss Ellie was content to live a life of wealth and influence while being willfully ignorant
of Jock's business practices, which he taught to JR
She then chastised both of them when it suited her
Miss Ellie formed a friendship/relationship/marriage with Clayton,
a man who tried to take away JR's wife and son
Miss Ellie did disgrace Jock's memory by giving a Ewing birthright (half of it) to Clayton
and then cutting JR out completely by giving all of it to Bobby.
I don't consider Miss Ellie to be a good, honorable person
I see her as a bad mother and a hypocrite and self-serving
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