Dancing Angela &Jane Wyman

[Richard Denault]

The early 50's were the golden years for Jane
1954 Blue Veil
1954 Magnificent Obsession
1955 All That Heaven Allows
1955 Lucy Gallant
But the next movie, 1956, Miracle in the Rain, although Jane did a good performance, didn't work at the box office anymore.
From 1955 to 1958 she had her series on television
The last film success of hers was Pollyanna in which the real star was the youthful Harvey Mills
In the 50's Wyman was more popular
But don't forget that in the United States, series are continually reruns on television, especially comedies, and at the end of the fifties, television was the queen of the house.
That's why Wyatt in the sixties was more popular
Star Treck the first series was not excessively successful when it was released
But its continuous reruns made it a true television phenomenon merchandising conventions
And Jane intervened in a mythical episode for fans of the Voyage to Babel when we meet Spock's family. This episode has been revived many times and, like the entire series, has been released on video and DVD
It was for this reason that Jane appeared in the fourth film of the series.
Spock was a character adored by millions of fans of the series (me too).
So it's logical that these fans also wanted Jane, At a convention a very serious fan asked Jane what she felt about being Spoock's mother
By the way, some other Star Treck fan in the forum

 

[Angela Channing]

The early 50's were the golden years for Jane
1954 Blue Veil
1954 Magnificent Obsession
1955 All That Heaven Allows
1955 Lucy Gallant
But the next movie, 1956, Miracle in the Rain, although Jane did a good performance, didn't work at the box office anymore.
From 1955 to 1958 she had her series on television
The last film success of hers was Pollyanna in which the real star was the youthful Harvey Mills
In the 50's Wyman was more popular
But don't forget that in the United States, series are continually reruns on television, especially comedies, and at the end of the fifties, television was the queen of the house.
That's why Wyatt in the sixties was more popular
Star Treck the first series was not excessively successful when it was released
But its continuous reruns made it a true television phenomenon merchandising conventions
And Jane intervened in a mythical episode for fans of the Voyage to Babel when we meet Spock's family. This episode has been revived many times and, like the entire series, has been released on video and DVD
It was for this reason that Jane appeared in the fourth film of the series.
Spock was a character adored by millions of fans of the series (me too).
So it's logical that these fans also wanted Jane, At a convention a very serious fan asked Jane what she felt about being Spoock's mother
By the way, some other Star Treck fan in the forum

There was no competition between the actresses. Jane Wyman was easily the better known as she had a very successful Hollywood career, Oscar and Golden Globe wins and a hit TV series with The Jane Wyman Theatre. It's difficult to confuse them other than they had similar sounding names but it terms of profile, Jane Wyman was the bigger star.

I know the face, but I wouldn't have known the name Jane Wyatt had I not read it on this thread. I can understand that Ms Wyatt would have had her own legion of fans but this would have been considerably smaller than Jane Wyman's fan base.

 

[Caryscott]

The early 50's were the golden years for Jane
1954 Blue Veil
1954 Magnificent Obsession
1955 All That Heaven Allows
1955 Lucy Gallant
But the next movie, 1956, Miracle in the Rain, although Jane did a good performance, didn't work at the box office anymore.
From 1955 to 1958 she had her series on television
The last film success of hers was Pollyanna in which the real star was the youthful Harvey Mills
In the 50's Wyman was more popular
But don't forget that in the United States, series are continually reruns on television, especially comedies, and at the end of the fifties, television was the queen of the house.
That's why Wyatt in the sixties was more popular
Star Treck the first series was not excessively successful when it was released
But its continuous reruns made it a true television phenomenon merchandising conventions
And Jane intervened in a mythical episode for fans of the Voyage to Babel when we meet Spock's family. This episode has been revived many times and, like the entire series, has been released on video and DVD
It was for this reason that Jane appeared in the fourth film of the series.
Spock was a character adored by millions of fans of the series (me too).
So it's logical that these fans also wanted Jane, At a convention a very serious fan asked Jane what she felt about being Spoock's mother
By the way, some other Star Treck fan in the forum

For accuracy “The Blue Veil” is 1951 and you omitted “So Big”(1953). MCA packaged Wyman for television and made the deal for her production company Lewman Productions to takeover producing the “Fireside Theatre” from Hal Roach Studios during the 54-55 television season. She made her TV acting debut on “General Electric Theatre” hosted by Ronald Reagan (it aired on January 2, 1955 on CBS) to get some experience with shooting a 1/2 hour television anthology. All 3 of her films released in 55-56 were shot before her series debuted. Only “All That Heaven Allows” released at the end of 55 was successful but it wasn’t as big a hit as “Magnificent Obsession” . Wyman was the only other woman on the “Top Ten Money Making Stars of the Year” list for 1954 along with Marilyn Monroe. “Magnificent Obsession” also won the Photoplay Gold Medal Award as “Most Popular Film of 1954” in the magazine’s annual reader’s poll. Jane Wyman only made 4 films after her move into television. None of the 4 films was a starring vehicle. “Pollyanna” wasn’t big box office but it aged well and found an audience on TV. Jane Wyman was 42-43 when Pollyanna was being shot, I rather doubt she thought she was appropriate casting for the Mills role. The two always had kind words for one another. “Bon Voyage!” in 1962 was a much bigger box office hit than “Pollyanna” at the time of release. It is listed as tied for 9th on the 1962 list of highest grossing films. Bill Thomas did the clothes and was nominated for an Oscar. Wyman’s anthology series did quite well in syndication. It aired daily on ABC for most of the 1961-1962 TV season and all of the 1962-1963 season as “Jane Wyman Presents” including a summer run in prime-time. It became a staple of daytime schedules targeted at female viewers on independent stations through the sixties along with “The Loretta Young Show” after that. It also did quite well in international syndication on the strength of Wyman’s movie star name. She won the Hollywood Foreign Press’s “World Film Favourite - Female” at the 8th Golden Globe Awards in 1951. She was also voted Britain’s Picturegoer Award for “Best Actress” three times in 1950, 1952 and 1955 amongst other international accolades. Jane Wyatt always seems lovely. If you have a point I’m not sure even you know what it is. “Father Knows Best” like a lot of B&W shows including “The Jane Wyman Show” became less popular in syndication as colour became more common on television in the late 60’s. Of course Jane Wyman co- owned her show with MCA so she had already done quite well financially from its production and syndication by that time.

 

[Caryscott]

I have read it somewhere
I do think that All That Heaven Allows is a very good movie with an original script, not a remark like Obsession
As for Blue Veil, Greta Garbo and Ingrid Berman turned down the role. They would have given another meaning to the film
She herself recognized the New York Times
"JAME WYMAN: 'I ALWAYS DID FOUR-HANDKERCHIEF ROLES. UNTIL NOW.'"
And to many on the street who said they remembered her so well, she was invariably mistaken for another actress, Jane Wyatt.
She was a good professional and a good actress but not a great star.
The proof is that although she had partners like Gregory Peck, Charton Heston and Rock Hudson, but when they were starting her career. She was never the partner of an established male star
I don't know if you know this website. I think she's good even though she only talks about her movie career

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Is there something wrong with remakes? They were very common in the 40 ‘s and 50’s because before the studios sold their film libraries to television in the late 50’s the original films were rarely seen after their initial release.

The Blue Veil was a remake of a French film. We will never know as the role went to Jane Wyman. In addition to her Academy Award nomination, she won a Golden Globe, a Picturegoer Award and a Golden Laurel for the film. The film did pretty well at the box office as well. Seems like quite a few people thought she did a pretty good job.

She was only a leading lady for a decade but she packed a lot into that 10 years before she went into television. Jane Wyman lived her dream, after 8 years at Warners she became a leading lady and was nominated for the “Best Actress” Academy Award four times alongside stars like Jennifer Jones, Katherine Hepburn, Irene Dunne, Barbara Stanwyck, Olivia De Havilland, Judy Garland, Ingrid Bergman, Rosalind Russell and Vivian Leigh. She even won once and received a number of other awards. She was directed by important Directors like Billy Wilder, Clarence Brown, William Wellman, Frank Capra and Alfred Hitchcock. She even had some hit records. She always seemed a little awed by what she got to do.

A number of female stars tended to headline their own films like Susan Hayward, Betty Grable and Olivia de Havilland (in her major roles not her ingenue roles in Errol Flynn pictures) for example. It seems to me being able to headline a film is a more important criteria for being a star than being paired with bigger stars. The observation seems sexist to me. Would you say that about a male star? Regardless Academy Award winners Jimmy Stewart, Ray Milland and Bing Crosby weren’t at the beginning of their careers when they co-starred with Jane Wyman.

 

[Caryscott]

It was very serious as the actress who dubbed it in Spanish commented.
She had a sense of humor but hurtful she Very rigid always obsessed by the script and the marks (which indicate the positions of the actors when they shoot)
And as someone else commented she was "a cold control freak with no sense of humor. She was a talented actress, but, apparently, not likable."
Margaret Ladd commented that Jane was very distant. And she always stayed away from the other actors.
That's why we don't imagine her dancing with Peter.
In this scene where she pretends to be a flirt to make her ex-husband jealous, she looks very forced and unnatural.
The movie was a remark of a movie with Cary Grant and Irenne Dunne.

 

[Caryscott]

What would the actress who dubs the finished print know about the actors hitting their mark or any of the production? Hour long TV shoots at a very quick pace. It isn’t like a movie where you can improvise and do a lot of takes. You need to get it and move on. Also she worked with a lot Classic Directors like Hitchcock and Clarence Brown who didn’t want you to improvise.

 

[Caryscott]

What a pity we didn't see a more carefree and cheerful Angela
Especially when she was with Peter, I think we didn't see her dance and sing, she didn't do it badly, she started her career as a showgirl and singer.
Most of the sequences are from Just for You (1952) with Bing Crosby and Let's Do It Again (1953) with Ray Milland,
After Belinda Wyman Wyman expressed interest around this time of doing no more "weepy" roles.
That's why she loved Falcon Crest Wyman said she wanted to make it as it was a change from "the four handkerchief bits" she was known for. "You just can't miss something like this," But it's a shame she didn't bring a bit of benevolent humor to her character. By the way, Earl Hamner commented that Jane still had prettier legs.

Jane Wyman took classes in St Joseph at Prinz’s Dance Academy. “Dad” Prinz helped teenage Jane get a meeting with his son Leroy Prinz a Dance Director at Paramount and he put her in the chorus. She talks about this in her TCM interview. She danced a little in her Hour Magazine interview looking lovely in a yellow skirt and blouse. Both are on YouTube I’m surprised you haven’t seen them.

Seems completely out of character for Angela Channing but according to many Jane loved music and was known to break into song. Angela got off a lot of wisecracks over the years maybe you weren’t paying attention.

 

[Brian Kinney]

"In the Cool, Cool of the Evening" with her and Bing Crosby from 1951 is a classic!

 

[Caryscott]

What a pity we didn't see a more carefree and cheerful Angela
Especially when she was with Peter, I think we didn't see her dance and sing, she didn't do it badly, she started her career as a showgirl and singer.
Most of the sequences are from Just for You (1952) with Bing Crosby and Let's Do It Again (1953) with Ray Milland,
After Belinda Wyman Wyman expressed interest around this time of doing no more "weepy" roles.
That's why she loved Falcon Crest Wyman said she wanted to make it as it was a change from "the four handkerchief bits" she was known for. "You just can't miss something like this," But it's a shame she didn't bring a bit of benevolent humor to her character. By the way, Earl Hamner commented that Jane still had prettier legs.

What a pity we didn't see a more carefree and cheerful Angela
Especially when she was with Peter, I think we didn't see her dance and sing, she didn't do it badly, she started her career as a showgirl and singer.
Most of the sequences are from Just for You (1952) with Bing Crosby and Let's Do It Again (1953) with Ray Milland,
After Belinda Wyman Wyman expressed interest around this time of doing no more "weepy" roles.
That's why she loved Falcon Crest Wyman said she wanted to make it as it was a change from "the four handkerchief bits" she was known for. "You just can't miss something like this," But it's a shame she didn't bring a bit of benevolent humor to her character. By the way, Earl Hamner commented that Jane still had prettier legs.

 

[Caryscott]

What a pity we didn't see a more carefree and cheerful Angela
Especially when she was with Peter, I think we didn't see her dance and sing, she didn't do it badly, she started her career as a showgirl and singer.
Most of the sequences are from Just for You (1952) with Bing Crosby and Let's Do It Again (1953) with Ray Milland,
After Belinda Wyman Wyman expressed interest around this time of doing no more "weepy" roles.
That's why she loved Falcon Crest Wyman said she wanted to make it as it was a change from "the four handkerchief bits" she was known for. "You just can't miss something like this," But it's a shame she didn't bring a bit of benevolent humor to her character. By the way, Earl Hamner commented that Jane still had prettier legs.

Jane and Kay Starr in 1959

 

[Caryscott]

Apologies here is the clip cued to just before Jane comes out.

Kay Starr with her friend Jane Wyman performing "Side by Side" on the television tribute "Some of Manie's Friends" in 1959. Jane would have been 42.

I recently watched an interview with Peggy Lee's granddaughter where she talked about how much her Grandmother enjoyed working with Sonny Burke who backs Jane on “I’m Takin’ a Slow Burn”. Of course Lee was also married to Dave Barbour whose band backs Jane on a couple of these recordings.

Various compilations also include Jane's songs from the films "Hollywood Canteen"(1944) and "Night and Day"(1946).

Jane's Discography from Decca:

45’s:

“In the Cool Cool, Cool of the Evening”/“Misto Cristofo Colombo”(“Here Comes the Groom”, 1951) with Bing Crosby, 4 Hits and a Miss and Matty Matlock’s All Stars (1951-Jun-21)
Peaked at #11 on the Billboard charts.

“How d’ye Do and Shake Hands”/“Black Strap Molasses”
with Jimmy Durante, Danny Kaye Groucho Marx and the Sonny Burke Orchestra (1951-Aug-12)
“Black Strap Molasses” peaked at #29 on the Billboard charts.

“Why Didn’t I?”/“Blow Out the Candle” (1951-Sep-18)

“I Love That Feelin’”/“It Was Nice While the Money Rolled In”
with The Four Hits and the Dave Barbour Orchestra (1951-Sep-25)

“Checkin’ My Heart”/“He’s Just Crazy For Me”
(“Just For You”, 1952) with the Dave Barbour Orchestra (1952-Feb-18)

“Zing a Little Zong”/“The Maiden of Guadalupe”
(“Just For You”, 1952) with Bing Crosby, Jud Conlon’s Rhythmaires and the Nathan Van Cleeve Orchestra (1952-May-08)
Peaked at #18 on the Billboard charts. Reached #10 on the UK Singles Chart.

“I Never Heard You Say”/“Doodle Bug Rag”
with Hoagy Carmichael (1952-Oct-14)

“I’m Takin’ a Slow Burn”/“It Was Great While It Lasted”
(“Let’s Do It Again”, 1953) with the Sonny Burke Orchestra (1953-May-18)

LP’s:

“Selections from the Paramount Picture "Just for You"”
(recorded 1952-Feb-14, 1952-Feb-18, 1952-Feb-21, 1952-May-08 and 1952-May-14
with Bing Crosby, Jane Wyman, The Andrews Sisters, Jud Conlon’s Rhythmaires and the Dave Barbour Orchestra

“Danny Kaye sings Hans Christian Andersen”
with Danny Kaye, Jane Wyman and Gordon Jenkins and his Chorus and Orchestra
(recorded 1952-Aug-11 to 1952-Aug-13)
This popular studio cast recording LP featuring Jane Wyman spent 17 weeks at #1 on the Billboard Album Chart in 1953. She is featured most prominently duetting with Kaye on “No Two People” but is also credited with contributing vocals to other tracks.

 

[Caryscott]

Finally figured out how to post the cued clip-sorry for the misfires. I'll get the hang of things.

 

[Angela Channing]

This popular studio cast recording LP featuring Jane Wyman spent 17 weeks at #1 on the Billboard Album Chart in 1953. She is featured most prominently duetting with Kaye on “No Two People” but is also credited with contributing vocals to other tracks.

I really love this recording, I've had it on a compilation album on my phone for many years. Jane's singing voice is superb and the playful interactions with Danny Kaye show the ease with which she can play comedy.

 

[Caryscott]

I really love this recording, I've had it on a compilation album on my phone for many years. Jane's singing voice is superb and the playful interactions with Danny Kaye show the ease with which she can play comedy.

It’s such a great song by Frank Loesser. They all seem to have great fun on “Black Strap Molasses” too.

I wish there was film of Jane performing “In the Cool Cool…” with Danny Kaye at the 24th Academy Awards in 1952. I bet they killed it. She presented the next year with Ray Milland on the first televised broadcast but didn’t perform “Zing a Little Zong”. Hopefully more of her TV appearances will turn up on YouTube like this one with Kay Starr.