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Well that would be interesting, a saucy Miss Ellie. And I take it that's not her chilli sauce?The script looks a little better than the one they shot -- for one thing, Miss Ellie is a bit more saucy.
Well that would be interesting, a saucy Miss Ellie. And I take it that's not her chilli sauce?The script looks a little better than the one they shot -- for one thing, Miss Ellie is a bit more saucy.
Well that would be interesting, a saucy Miss Ellie. And I take it that's not her chilli sauce?
I would've loved that too!ELLIE: "What a dirty business you Ewings are in."
JOCK: "That dirty business saved your precious ranch... this ranch... Don't you forget it, Miss Ellie."
ELLIE: "How can I? You remind me every day... "
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How I would have loved to have seen this exchange in the pilot, Ellie slouched in that chair, editorializing in a mutter over her shoulder to Jock. I wonder if it was Katzman who nixed it.
Again we have two different meanings for the same word. I think your American meaning for saucy is having or expressing in a bold, lively or spirited manner.
Here in the UK it means sexy, suggestive in a humorous way. I was somewhat confused.
Either way I bet, as you say, it was Katzman who would've changed it! (If that's what nixed means)
Let's not tarnish David's good name with so and so.also a HUGE mistake of Crap Cidre NOT to involve him in the mess that was TNT Dallas


I've just been reading this obituary about David Jacobs from the Guardian and it mentions that he hated the revival series. It's not hard to guess why. That show was too far removed from what the original Dallas was.
Besides I recall that the new Producers didn't want David Jacobs involved with it and even tried to alter the Created by credit to suit themselves which is why David Jacobs challenged them and still got the credit but the new writer was credited under Developed By. They weren't fit to lick Jacobs boots as the original creator and writer of Dallas. I will always hold David Jacobs in high regard as the Father creator of one of the most beloved soap opera's of all time. Thank you Sir.
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2023/aug/23/david-jacobs-obituary
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Yes, how interesting! Nice to know they must've got along amicably. John Pleshette was one of my favourites on Knots, think he wrote episodes too.Well, I learned something new. John Pleshette who played Richard Avery on KNOTS LANDING was married to David Jacobs' ex-wife Lynn.

When Leonard Katzman did get to create a show himself like Jacobs had, he came up with Dangerous Curves (which was set in actual Dallas, and co-created with David Paulsen), but that show failed to be even as successful as Dallas was -certainly it doesn't seem to be remembered, given DVD releases or repeated on TV. (Was Dangerous Curves shown internationally to add?)David Jacobs was a creative genius.
Not only did he create Dallas but Knots Landing as well.
Katzman might've steered the Dallas ship during Dallas's hey day but I gather he was really miffed about Jacobs creating the show and wanted a hit show of his own.
I'm not really a fan of Knots Landing however even I know that David Jacobs guiding light kept that show grounded in reality much more that Leonard Katzman did on Dallas.
I want to take this opportunity to thank David Jacobs for creating both shows and changing the landscape of the soap opera genre during the 1980's. He was an original and deserves recognition for creating both of these iconic shows. Thank you Sir.
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What a chilling thought.
Whenever I'm having a conversation about age, I'm the first to say if I wasn't born when I was, I may never have grown up watching Dallas and know it as I do!
I was born in the same year, not long had my birthday. I remember my older brother telling me I might like a new programme starting which was about a big rich American family. I was hooked from day one.I never missed an episode of Dallas back in the 1980's when I was a kid growing up.
I don't remember seeing the initial mini series or the first few series because I was born in 1969 however because my parents watched the show so did I too.
Now that they're both long since dead and I'll be 54 years old this year, I want to thank both of them for getting me hooked on such a brilliant TV show.
It was a big part of me growing up and I love it dearly.![]()