I just finished the first episode of Dallas

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That reminds me: should I skip the "dream" season? Since everything that happens during that year is, well, fake, and any character/plot development gets thrown out the window? I wouldn't mind skipping a season, so long as its "fake".
To fully appreciate what Dallas was you should watch its entire series run, followed by Dallas: The Early Years, Dallas: J.R. Returns and Dallas: War of the Ewings. And if the second half of Lorimar Dallas and the reunion movies isn't torture enough watch TNT Dallas, Season 1, 2 and 3.

Then, you may understand why Dallas fans have had to put up with a lot over the years.
 

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I think all the prime time soaps had their own unique style and atmosphere, and when I watch a soap I'm completely absorbed in that fantasy world - and then it doesn't matter what Dynasty did or who-did-what better.

More oil.

I totally agree with you @Willie Oleson.

All prime time soaps like Dallas, Knots Landing, Dynasty and Falcon Crest have their own style, but that makes no difference to me who's better or worse. Personally I really enjoyed Dallas first season (mini series), everything seemed very realistic, no shoulder pads and permanent hair. yet. Dallas was also the first real prime time soap that was still in development. After Dynasty arrived in 1981, Dallas was already in season 4 and was already developing with cliffhangers in each episode, so Dynasty's creators have seen already had a lot of how Dallas was doing.

@Ked For me Dallas was doing great with the first seasons, but if you like the glamour in soaps, then hang on for a while it;s only getting better, better, and better, or just keep it at Dynasty. :)

@Ked Personally, I do like watching Dynasty, but Dallas is my all time favorite #1 soap of all soaps, so have fun with Dallas. ;)
 
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That reminds me: should I skip the "dream" season? Since everything that happens during that year is, well, fake, and any character/plot development gets thrown out the window? I wouldn't mind skipping a season, so long as its "fake".

Definitely watch it, as its a pretty okay season, and we see new relationships formed and see characters in a new light also, plus its a part of DALLAS history :)
 

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Wouldn't it be ironic if this is to become the most watched and most posted in thread of the Dynasty forum? :D
 

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Definitely watch it, as its a pretty okay season, and we see new relationships formed and see characters in a new light also, plus its a part of DALLAS history :)

But that just makes me want to skip it all the more: we get to see new relationships and characters get new sides to them... but then come *next* season, its all thrown out the window. None of it "really" happened on the show, and we lose all what we gained during that year. It becomes irrelevant to the overall storyline/character-development, so... yeah. I just get more and more incentive to skip Season 9 (which I find funny to say, seeing as how Season 9 is one of my favorites for DYNASTY :lol:).

To fully appreciate what Dallas was you should watch its entire series run, followed by Dallas: The Early Years, Dallas: J.R. Returns and Dallas: War of the Ewings. And if the second half of Lorimar Dallas and the reunion movies isn't torture enough watch TNT Dallas, Season 1, 2 and 3.

Then, you may understand why Dallas fans have had to put up with a lot over the years.

...Yeah, that's too much at this point. I think I'll just watch the original run of Dallas for now. X)

But as a Dynasty fan, I've already had to put up with a lot (not nearly as much as the more senior fans around here, but hey, I've gotten plenty frustrated with the show's mishandling). :lol:

Wouldn't it be ironic if this is to become the most watched and most posted in thread of the Dynasty forum? :D

HAH! Well, people love a first-time viewer. Remember @Ome 's thread of watching Dynasty for the first time? X)
 

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Loving your reviews Ked! I do hope you stick with Dallas. Once it finds it's feet it's really superb for a good number of seasons. I'm not such a fan of the self contained episodes so for me it really gets momentum when it becomes fully serialized. Hopefully you'll stay with it until it does.
 

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Loving your reviews Ked! I do hope you stick with Dallas. Once it finds it's feet it's really superb for a good number of seasons. I'm not such a fan of the self contained episodes so for me it really gets momentum when it becomes fully serialized. Hopefully you'll stay with it until it does.

I just might. X) And thanks! :D
 

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Seriously @Ked watch season 9, if not for continuity sake then watch it because this is the year DALLAS does DYNASTY better than DYNASTY itself at this point! Lol.

But you have many more seasons to get through before you reach that point.

Early DALLAS's stand alone episodes can be a bit of a struggle but most are really good, I won't mention or give away any plots mind you :-D
 

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Seriously @Ked watch season 9, if not for continuity sake then watch it because this is the year DALLAS does DYNASTY better than DYNASTY itself at this point! Lol.

But you have many more seasons to get through before you reach that point.

Early DALLAS's stand alone episodes can be a bit of a struggle but most are really good, I won't mention or give away any plots mind you :-D

Alright, finally somebody comes up with a good argument! :lol: Well, we'll see when I get there, alright? X)
 

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Dallas, Episode 4! Here we go:

Personally, I never really liked opening credits that go in alphabetical order. I think Dynasty did it right in having the main cast introduced in order of importance.

Camille Marchetta?! 0_0

JR with another floozy? Sure got over Julie fast.

Those nasty orange curtains...

"Bye, Wanda." Pats her like a dog. Oh my gosh... XD I'm almost surprised he patted her on the back and not on the butt. :lol:

The snow falling is beautiful...

Uh oh, those two guys from the previews are here.

HAH! They go to the wrong door at first; the little guy grabs the innocent guy and roughs him up a bit before being told, "Wrong door", and next thing you know, "Hey man, sorry." :lol:

Heh heh, I can't help but imagine the two guys are wondering if there's a lesbian affair going on. XD

Oh JR, you leave a "calling card" with your name and everything? Holy crap, and it was *right* where you were looking earlier! Dumb-dumb... What a contrived plotline coming up...

Radio talking about a hurricane... oh yeah, its that episode...

Poor Miss Ellie is sick. Nice to see Sue Ellen taking care of her, and keeping her company. X)

Miss Ellie wants to make Pam feel more at home, but Sue Ellen doesn't seem too keen.

Sweet phonecall between Bobby and Pam.

Interesting to see just a tiny bit more interaction between Sue Ellen and Pam, even if its only a couple of lines. Somehow I'm beginning to see these two as Fallon and Amanda: two girls I'd like to see interact more.

Lucy's home early. At first it seems like she's back to her school-skipping ways, but she says they were let out on account of the storm. Feasible enough, though something about her initial reaction to Pam's inquiry makes me wonder... oh well.

Wow. Kinda nice seeing Sue Ellen take charge like that, making preperations for the storm like that.

HAH! Pam spanked Lucy! (Sort of, anyway, hahaha.)

Jock and Bobby are going to have lunch with clients or someone important. Doesn't matter who; it just means they're not going to be home with the women-folk when those two hillbillies barge in.

Ewww, so these guys are just going to go in and rape the women at JR's house? I hope they *die*. ...Course then again, they didn't say they were going to rape them... still, though...

Ray and JR are home now.

"Why didn't you call me last night?"
"I was workin' late."
Sure, Jr. Sure.

Sue Ellen's face mirror's my above comment before she asks why he didn't call her this morning.

The two rednecks have shown up on the front porch, asking to use the phone. Sue Ellen, like a gracious lady, allows them in. Poor thing...

Suddenly I'm reminded of "The Big Valley." This whole scenario reminds me of something that would happen on "The Big Valley"! ^^

Lucy seems to be taken with the younger redneck. She even remembers that his name is "Alan." XD

Lucy and the younger redneck (Peyton Alan, was it?) are playing with matches. Shameful.

Wow. That fire started up quick.

"Its the feast of San Antonio. Everybody has the day off."
Didn't know that was a holiday... or that such a feast existed. ^^ Course I'm not from Texas, so...

Of course we get a shot of Lucy bending over before she exits the room. XD

Beautiful Pam makes her entrance. She truly is a vision. :)

Oh yeah, the older hillbilly's name is Frick! XD And he looks *very* impressed with Pam. ^^

JR's new secretary is a brunette.

Bobby has decided to call home; he's talking to JR now; Bobby wants to come home but JR advises against it; Bobby points out the help are gone; JR tells him about the two hillbillies who happened to come by; JR hangs up as Bobby protests. Oh dear...

HAH! Little Lucy goes to help out the Big Strong Men as they take care of the ranch. I just love how small she was next to all of them.

Herding cattle... tying horses to posts... wait, is that how it's done? Is that even safe? ^^ Now they've got a calf in the back of the truck... oh no, they were just tying the horses momentarily so they could mount and then herd all the *other* horses... snooze... Get on with it!

Uh oh, Ray fell off his horse. He's hurt. Not good. ^^

Miss Ellie's up out of bed. She sees them bringing Ray out the window.

Everybody sans Miss Ellie is in the main room. Uh oh, one of the rednecks has locked the front door. They're setting their plan in motion now! And they've got guns. Well, at least they came prepared. Gotta give them that much.

"We ain't no criminals."
(sarcastic) "Right." (Ray gets his cowboy hat knocked off, haha)

The younger hillbilly is really annoying.

"We're here for justice!"
Oh please, you can't just come out and say, "Cuz you boinked my wife, you scumbag!"

The phone's ringing...

Hah, the older hillbilly called Pam "Countess."

Btw, its kinda sweet seeing Lucy hanging onto Pam in this situation. Shows that their relationship really has come a surprisingly long way in such a short amount of time.

Pam is talking on the phone with Bobby now with the hillbilly listening in. Hmm... could Pam trying to be sending signals to Bobby that everything's not alright when she said she and JR were going to sit down and play a game of... what was it? Back-gam-on? ^^ She quickly hangs up, and Bobby seems hurt and confused.

Huh, looks like it worked! Bobby's caught on something is wrong: Pam and JR playing back-gam-on? Please! :lol:

So not only Bobby, but Jock are on their way home.

Huh. JR actually looked upset when the younger hillbilly made a grab at Sue Ellen.

Dang it, the younger hillbilly's laugh is *SO* *ANNOYING*. *PLEASE* tell me he's gonna die!

"My wife's name is Wanda."
Ooh. Now it looks like JR and Ray are gonna catch on...

Oh, Sue Ellen's face as the hillbilly slowly reveals how he found his wife...

Ooooh, now the hillbilly has revealed his wife said that JR and Ray raped her and her friend! Ooooh, the plot thickens!

JR's own face... his eyes are watery...

Ooh, I love the quick transitions between the faces of the hillbilly, JR and Sue Ellen.

So what's Sue Ellen got to say? "Hit him." Heh!

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, the younger hillbilly just forced a kiss on her! ...or did he lick her? Either way, ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww. This guy has *GOT* to *DIIIIIIIE*...

JR jumps up, he gets bashed over the head. Ray jumps up, wrestles the older hillbilly for his gun! Hillbilly goes for Ray's weakspot: his injured leg.

OH! GO PAM! She's trying to get the gun from the younger hillbilly - ewwww, now he's trying to get fresh with her! Yuck!

I heard Pam say, "I'll kill you!" I hope she does.

Miss Ellie has come downstairs! 0_0 Oh, her poor horrified face...

Uh oh, there's been a car crash and a pile up. Obviously Jock and Bobby have been delayed...

Bobby's determined to get home, I tell you what. ^^

The younger hillbilly has led JR and Ray into the kitchen; he tells JR to find rope. Wow, JR found it pretty quickly. Who keeps rope in a kitchen cabinent?

Hopefully JR does a bad job so Ray can struggle free... and hopefully the hillbilly won't notice.

Even in her current state, Miss Ellie seems well in control of the situation, though her eyes are still filled with horror. And yet there's a certainty that in her voice that the hillbillies will met a *very* bad end if they don't skedaddle. XD

JR's back in the room with the other hillbilly. And they've just discovered Sue Ellen used to be Miss Texas... and we get to see a shot of the photo. Wow. She was a knockout. ^^ :D

Now they're forcing Sue Ellen to go and find her Miss Texas sash.

Pam's going to try and reason with the younger hillbilly.
"You don't believe that rape story, do you?"
"Why not?"
"Cuz I don't think you're that dumb."
*I* do, Pam.

The younger hillbilly says he doesn't care one way or the other. Oh, so he's the brother-in-law of the older hillbilly, and he's going along with the rape story because he knows her husband will kill her for cheating on him. He's still a douche, though.

Oh man, BOTH of these guys have GOT to diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeee......

Oh gosh, Lucy...! The younger hillbilly says he's going to choose between Lucy and Pam, and Lucy wastes no time in revealing Pam used to go with Ray before she married Bobby. Way to throw Pam under the bus, Lucy. I understand she's scared, and she doesn't want to get raped, but still... I hope Lucy makes it up to Pam later on.

Pam, however, seems defiant in a "so what?" manner when she confirms this. She's pretty cool. Oh, so now the hillbilly sees Pam as "one of us."

So now Lucy has been selected as the second rape victim. Talk about instant karma.

Older hillbilly and Sue Ellen are back. And the younger hillbilly wins more death points.

They ask Sue Ellen what was her talent for the beauty contest. She says she sang. So they order her to sing, but she's too scared and embarrassed.

JR starts to jump up, but gets a gun pointed at him.

Bobby found the car the hillbillies showed up just outside of Southfork. He looks at the map and realizes their story doesn't check out. And Jock finds JR's card in there. They both realize something bad is going on.

Sue Ellen starts to tearfully sing. The hillbillies force her to remove her coat, revealing her Miss Texas sash and bathing suit. Gotta hand it to Linda Gray in this scene, she did *such* a good job here.

Oh JR, look what your philandering has caused your wife. And to think, this isn't even the typical humiliation a cheated wife goes through! :(

The hillbillies take so much delight in Sue Ellen's weepy singing. They're sick. Please, someone shoot them.

Ooh, the glare Sue Ellen gives her husband: "YOU did this to me!"

Poor Sue Ellen, I feel bad for ever hating her. :( The way she drops the coat, she might as well be naked. She's purely vulnerable and emotional, just... wow.

Older hillbilly rips off her sash and she sinks to her knees, still trying to warble.

Younger hillbilly laughs again - and I want to hit him again.

WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pam just came out and said the guy's wife wasn't raped at all - and that the younger hillbilly was the one who told them that! 0_0 Where's THIS gonna go?!

The younger hillbilly denies it - but his eyes betray him. The older hillbilly somehow looks even more frightening than before.

Even Miss Ellie needles him. 0_0

Jock and Bobby are pulling up to the house...

Bobby's genre savvy enough to figure they should go in through the back door... where they'll undoubtedly find Ray!

Older hillbilly looks like he's trying to keep himself together...

Younger hillbilly acts like an idiot...

Older hillbilly says they're done.

Younger hillbilly still wants to rape Lucy.

And Pam wins Best Aunt-in-Law Ever Award when she stands up tells him to leave Lucy alone, even after Lucy tried to throw her under the bus earlier.

(smiles seductively) "Peyton. I'll go with you."
Oh EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, Pam! Ewwwwwwwww! You're too good for him! Just EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

Younger hillbilly still wants Lucy cuz Pam is "one of our own."

And the older hillbilly doesn't even stop him. Even when he doesn't want "Justice", he's still a jerk.

Bobby jumps between younger hillbilly and yanks Lucy from him, while Jock sucker punches him. GOOD! Finally! (You can be sure I re-watched the punch part a few times ;))

JR trips older hillbilly and Bobby punches him. Twice.

"Somebody better call the sheriff before I blast these two slobs."
Like a boss, Jock. X)

Wait, what, Miss Ellie? Did I hear you right? Did you just say that they had to let the hillbillies go? Is that headache of yours' affecting your brain or something?

"Trust me! We can't involve the law!"

Umm... why not? These two guys held your family at gunpoint and tried to rape Sue Ellen and an underage Lucy, all because JR slept with one of their wives... ah, I see now. The scandal.

If I had been Jock, instead of ending my sentence with "I"ll kill you", I would have said "I'll shoot you both in your nethers and watch as you bleed yourself dry."

The two would-be rapists walk out like chastened children... though the older one says he and his wife have got something talkin' to do.

Sue Ellen is still on the floor, whimpering and throwing hate-filled glares at a shame-faced JR.

Miss Ellie has Jock help her put Lucy to bed.

And heh, poor Ray comes limping out of the kitchen, sort've like, "Um, hey, don't forget about me!" :lol:

And nobody bothers to help Sue Ellen up off the floor. Though they're probably going to leave her alone with JR...

Haha, oh my gosh, Bobby and Pam just walk past as Ray just hops into the living room...

JR finally kneels down in front of his wife. Sue Ellen raises her head... oh wow, her face...

...Wow. That was intense. Not a single word was spoken, and yet... the way how JR tried to cover his wife up, only for her to reject his gesture... the way how she walks out of the room, and gives Ray this "You knew too" kind of look, before heading out... wow.

I now understand why and how Sue Ellen got to be so popular. Linda Gray was *awesome*. :D

Now its just Ray and JR; they started this episode with their antics, and look where it got both of them. Oh, now Ray's hopped off, leaving JR all alone...

~~~~~

Great episode! Wow, really intense. Didn't end the way how I wanted it to. I still say the hillbillies - at least the younger one - should have died. But oh well. I'm assuming they don't come back, and if so, then GOOD. I don't ever want to see or hear them again.

Pam continues to be the best thing about this show, though Sue Ellen is gunning for a close second. A *very* close second. Miss Ellie got a moment or two to shine, and Lucy got to be cute in a few scenes, though I'm still mad at her for throwing Pam under the bus like that. But, again, she *was* scared and trying not to get raped, only for her actions to lead almost to just that happening. So she got her punishment, more or less.

Ray and JR didn't really do much in this episode, although its because of their sleeping around is what got the family into so much trouble. Bobby and Jock got to heroes in the end, though neither of them did anything all that spectacular aside from generic last-minute rescuers. But oh well, there's only so much you can do with each character per episode.

So yeah. A real great, intense episode. I agree the hurricane should have been a snowstorm, but other than that... Got nothing more to say. X)

Oh wait, yes I do: just wanted to reiterate what I said earlier about this feeling like something "The Big Valley" would have happen. Very much so. Anybody agree with that, or am I the only one? X)
 

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I was sooo looking forward to you reviewing this episode. Glad you liked all those Sue Ellen moments like i did. Ms. Gray is just so perfect for this part. And there's still sooo much more great stuff of her coming up.
Can you believe that this episode was just skipped and *never* shown on German TV? They didn't even dub it. So i never got to see it until a few years ago when the DVDs came up and i finally could watch it. :)
 

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Dallas, Episode 4! Here we go:

Personally, I never really liked opening credits that go in alphabetical order. I think Dynasty did it right in having the main cast introduced in order of importance.

Camille Marchetta?! 0_0

JR with another floozy? Sure got over Julie fast.

Those nasty orange curtains...

"Bye, Wanda." Pats her like a dog. Oh my gosh... XD I'm almost surprised he patted her on the back and not on the butt. :lol:

The snow falling is beautiful...

Uh oh, those two guys from the previews are here.

HAH! They go to the wrong door at first; the little guy grabs the innocent guy and roughs him up a bit before being told, "Wrong door", and next thing you know, "Hey man, sorry." :lol:

Heh heh, I can't help but imagine the two guys are wondering if there's a lesbian affair going on. XD

Oh JR, you leave a "calling card" with your name and everything? Holy crap, and it was *right* where you were looking earlier! Dumb-dumb... What a contrived plotline coming up...

Radio talking about a hurricane... oh yeah, its that episode...

Poor Miss Ellie is sick. Nice to see Sue Ellen taking care of her, and keeping her company. X)

Miss Ellie wants to make Pam feel more at home, but Sue Ellen doesn't seem too keen.

Sweet phonecall between Bobby and Pam.

Interesting to see just a tiny bit more interaction between Sue Ellen and Pam, even if its only a couple of lines. Somehow I'm beginning to see these two as Fallon and Amanda: two girls I'd like to see interact more.

Lucy's home early. At first it seems like she's back to her school-skipping ways, but she says they were let out on account of the storm. Feasible enough, though something about her initial reaction to Pam's inquiry makes me wonder... oh well.

Wow. Kinda nice seeing Sue Ellen take charge like that, making preperations for the storm like that.

HAH! Pam spanked Lucy! (Sort of, anyway, hahaha.)

Jock and Bobby are going to have lunch with clients or someone important. Doesn't matter who; it just means they're not going to be home with the women-folk when those two hillbillies barge in.

Ewww, so these guys are just going to go in and rape the women at JR's house? I hope they *die*. ...Course then again, they didn't say they were going to rape them... still, though...

Ray and JR are home now.

"Why didn't you call me last night?"
"I was workin' late."
Sure, Jr. Sure.

Sue Ellen's face mirror's my above comment before she asks why he didn't call her this morning.

The two rednecks have shown up on the front porch, asking to use the phone. Sue Ellen, like a gracious lady, allows them in. Poor thing...

Suddenly I'm reminded of "The Big Valley." This whole scenario reminds me of something that would happen on "The Big Valley"! ^^

Lucy seems to be taken with the younger redneck. She even remembers that his name is "Alan." XD

Lucy and the younger redneck (Peyton Alan, was it?) are playing with matches. Shameful.

Wow. That fire started up quick.

"Its the feast of San Antonio. Everybody has the day off."
Didn't know that was a holiday... or that such a feast existed. ^^ Course I'm not from Texas, so...

Of course we get a shot of Lucy bending over before she exits the room. XD

Beautiful Pam makes her entrance. She truly is a vision. :)

Oh yeah, the older hillbilly's name is Frick! XD And he looks *very* impressed with Pam. ^^

JR's new secretary is a brunette.

Bobby has decided to call home; he's talking to JR now; Bobby wants to come home but JR advises against it; Bobby points out the help are gone; JR tells him about the two hillbillies who happened to come by; JR hangs up as Bobby protests. Oh dear...

HAH! Little Lucy goes to help out the Big Strong Men as they take care of the ranch. I just love how small she was next to all of them.

Herding cattle... tying horses to posts... wait, is that how it's done? Is that even safe? ^^ Now they've got a calf in the back of the truck... oh no, they were just tying the horses momentarily so they could mount and then herd all the *other* horses... snooze... Get on with it!

Uh oh, Ray fell off his horse. He's hurt. Not good. ^^

Miss Ellie's up out of bed. She sees them bringing Ray out the window.

Everybody sans Miss Ellie is in the main room. Uh oh, one of the rednecks has locked the front door. They're setting their plan in motion now! And they've got guns. Well, at least they came prepared. Gotta give them that much.

"We ain't no criminals."
(sarcastic) "Right." (Ray gets his cowboy hat knocked off, haha)

The younger hillbilly is really annoying.

"We're here for justice!"
Oh please, you can't just come out and say, "Cuz you boinked my wife, you scumbag!"

The phone's ringing...

Hah, the older hillbilly called Pam "Countess."

Btw, its kinda sweet seeing Lucy hanging onto Pam in this situation. Shows that their relationship really has come a surprisingly long way in such a short amount of time.

Pam is talking on the phone with Bobby now with the hillbilly listening in. Hmm... could Pam trying to be sending signals to Bobby that everything's not alright when she said she and JR were going to sit down and play a game of... what was it? Back-gam-on? ^^ She quickly hangs up, and Bobby seems hurt and confused.

Huh, looks like it worked! Bobby's caught on something is wrong: Pam and JR playing back-gam-on? Please! :lol:

So not only Bobby, but Jock are on their way home.

Huh. JR actually looked upset when the younger hillbilly made a grab at Sue Ellen.

Dang it, the younger hillbilly's laugh is *SO* *ANNOYING*. *PLEASE* tell me he's gonna die!

"My wife's name is Wanda."
Ooh. Now it looks like JR and Ray are gonna catch on...

Oh, Sue Ellen's face as the hillbilly slowly reveals how he found his wife...

Ooooh, now the hillbilly has revealed his wife said that JR and Ray raped her and her friend! Ooooh, the plot thickens!

JR's own face... his eyes are watery...

Ooh, I love the quick transitions between the faces of the hillbilly, JR and Sue Ellen.

So what's Sue Ellen got to say? "Hit him." Heh!

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, the younger hillbilly just forced a kiss on her! ...or did he lick her? Either way, ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww. This guy has *GOT* to *DIIIIIIIE*...

JR jumps up, he gets bashed over the head. Ray jumps up, wrestles the older hillbilly for his gun! Hillbilly goes for Ray's weakspot: his injured leg.

OH! GO PAM! She's trying to get the gun from the younger hillbilly - ewwww, now he's trying to get fresh with her! Yuck!

I heard Pam say, "I'll kill you!" I hope she does.

Miss Ellie has come downstairs! 0_0 Oh, her poor horrified face...

Uh oh, there's been a car crash and a pile up. Obviously Jock and Bobby have been delayed...

Bobby's determined to get home, I tell you what. ^^

The younger hillbilly has led JR and Ray into the kitchen; he tells JR to find rope. Wow, JR found it pretty quickly. Who keeps rope in a kitchen cabinent?

Hopefully JR does a bad job so Ray can struggle free... and hopefully the hillbilly won't notice.

Even in her current state, Miss Ellie seems well in control of the situation, though her eyes are still filled with horror. And yet there's a certainty that in her voice that the hillbillies will met a *very* bad end if they don't skedaddle. XD

JR's back in the room with the other hillbilly. And they've just discovered Sue Ellen used to be Miss Texas... and we get to see a shot of the photo. Wow. She was a knockout. ^^ :D

Now they're forcing Sue Ellen to go and find her Miss Texas sash.

Pam's going to try and reason with the younger hillbilly.
"You don't believe that rape story, do you?"
"Why not?"
"Cuz I don't think you're that dumb."
*I* do, Pam.

The younger hillbilly says he doesn't care one way or the other. Oh, so he's the brother-in-law of the older hillbilly, and he's going along with the rape story because he knows her husband will kill her for cheating on him. He's still a douche, though.

Oh man, BOTH of these guys have GOT to diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeee......

Oh gosh, Lucy...! The younger hillbilly says he's going to choose between Lucy and Pam, and Lucy wastes no time in revealing Pam used to go with Ray before she married Bobby. Way to throw Pam under the bus, Lucy. I understand she's scared, and she doesn't want to get raped, but still... I hope Lucy makes it up to Pam later on.

Pam, however, seems defiant in a "so what?" manner when she confirms this. She's pretty cool. Oh, so now the hillbilly sees Pam as "one of us."

So now Lucy has been selected as the second rape victim. Talk about instant karma.

Older hillbilly and Sue Ellen are back. And the younger hillbilly wins more death points.

They ask Sue Ellen what was her talent for the beauty contest. She says she sang. So they order her to sing, but she's too scared and embarrassed.

JR starts to jump up, but gets a gun pointed at him.

Bobby found the car the hillbillies showed up just outside of Southfork. He looks at the map and realizes their story doesn't check out. And Jock finds JR's card in there. They both realize something bad is going on.

Sue Ellen starts to tearfully sing. The hillbillies force her to remove her coat, revealing her Miss Texas sash and bathing suit. Gotta hand it to Linda Gray in this scene, she did *such* a good job here.

Oh JR, look what your philandering has caused your wife. And to think, this isn't even the typical humiliation a cheated wife goes through! :(

The hillbillies take so much delight in Sue Ellen's weepy singing. They're sick. Please, someone shoot them.

Ooh, the glare Sue Ellen gives her husband: "YOU did this to me!"

Poor Sue Ellen, I feel bad for ever hating her. :( The way she drops the coat, she might as well be naked. She's purely vulnerable and emotional, just... wow.

Older hillbilly rips off her sash and she sinks to her knees, still trying to warble.

Younger hillbilly laughs again - and I want to hit him again.

WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pam just came out and said the guy's wife wasn't raped at all - and that the younger hillbilly was the one who told them that! 0_0 Where's THIS gonna go?!

The younger hillbilly denies it - but his eyes betray him. The older hillbilly somehow looks even more frightening than before.

Even Miss Ellie needles him. 0_0

Jock and Bobby are pulling up to the house...

Bobby's genre savvy enough to figure they should go in through the back door... where they'll undoubtedly find Ray!

Older hillbilly looks like he's trying to keep himself together...

Younger hillbilly acts like an idiot...

Older hillbilly says they're done.

Younger hillbilly still wants to rape Lucy.

And Pam wins Best Aunt-in-Law Ever Award when she stands up tells him to leave Lucy alone, even after Lucy tried to throw her under the bus earlier.

(smiles seductively) "Peyton. I'll go with you."
Oh EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, Pam! Ewwwwwwwww! You're too good for him! Just EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

Younger hillbilly still wants Lucy cuz Pam is "one of our own."

And the older hillbilly doesn't even stop him. Even when he doesn't want "Justice", he's still a jerk.

Bobby jumps between younger hillbilly and yanks Lucy from him, while Jock sucker punches him. GOOD! Finally! (You can be sure I re-watched the punch part a few times ;))

JR trips older hillbilly and Bobby punches him. Twice.

"Somebody better call the sheriff before I blast these two slobs."
Like a boss, Jock. X)

Wait, what, Miss Ellie? Did I hear you right? Did you just say that they had to let the hillbillies go? Is that headache of yours' affecting your brain or something?

"Trust me! We can't involve the law!"

Umm... why not? These two guys held your family at gunpoint and tried to rape Sue Ellen and an underage Lucy, all because JR slept with one of their wives... ah, I see now. The scandal.

If I had been Jock, instead of ending my sentence with "I"ll kill you", I would have said "I'll shoot you both in your nethers and watch as you bleed yourself dry."

The two would-be rapists walk out like chastened children... though the older one says he and his wife have got something talkin' to do.

Sue Ellen is still on the floor, whimpering and throwing hate-filled glares at a shame-faced JR.

Miss Ellie has Jock help her put Lucy to bed.

And heh, poor Ray comes limping out of the kitchen, sort've like, "Um, hey, don't forget about me!" :lol:

And nobody bothers to help Sue Ellen up off the floor. Though they're probably going to leave her alone with JR...

Haha, oh my gosh, Bobby and Pam just walk past as Ray just hops into the living room...

JR finally kneels down in front of his wife. Sue Ellen raises her head... oh wow, her face...

...Wow. That was intense. Not a single word was spoken, and yet... the way how JR tried to cover his wife up, only for her to reject his gesture... the way how she walks out of the room, and gives Ray this "You knew too" kind of look, before heading out... wow.

I now understand why and how Sue Ellen got to be so popular. Linda Gray was *awesome*. :D

Now its just Ray and JR; they started this episode with their antics, and look where it got both of them. Oh, now Ray's hopped off, leaving JR all alone...

~~~~~

Great episode! Wow, really intense. Didn't end the way how I wanted it to. I still say the hillbillies - at least the younger one - should have died. But oh well. I'm assuming they don't come back, and if so, then GOOD. I don't ever want to see or hear them again.

Pam continues to be the best thing about this show, though Sue Ellen is gunning for a close second. A *very* close second. Miss Ellie got a moment or two to shine, and Lucy got to be cute in a few scenes, though I'm still mad at her for throwing Pam under the bus like that. But, again, she *was* scared and trying not to get raped, only for her actions to lead almost to just that happening. So she got her punishment, more or less.

Ray and JR didn't really do much in this episode, although its because of their sleeping around is what got the family into so much trouble. Bobby and Jock got to heroes in the end, though neither of them did anything all that spectacular aside from generic last-minute rescuers. But oh well, there's only so much you can do with each character per episode.

So yeah. A real great, intense episode. I agree the hurricane should have been a snowstorm, but other than that... Got nothing more to say. X)

Oh wait, yes I do: just wanted to reiterate what I said earlier about this feeling like something "The Big Valley" would have happen. Very much so. Anybody agree with that, or am I the only one? X)

I loved this episode, its one of my top 5 episodes when you watch this episode and an episode from 1991 its hard to believe that its the same show.
 

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Can you believe that this episode was just skipped and *never* shown on German TV? They didn't even dub it. So i never got to see it until a few years ago when the DVDs came up and i finally could watch it. :)

Wow, really? ^^ Glad that you were able to watch it. :D

I loved this episode, its one of my top 5 episodes when you watch this episode and an episode from 1991 its hard to believe that its the same show.

I'll bet! I wonder what it'd be like to watch a S1 ep from Dynasty, and then a S7 or S8 ep. :lol:
 

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According to IMDB, the first primetime soap since Peyton Place was Executive Suite, but it was cancelled after 18 episodes.

So you could say that DALLAS was the second successful prime time soap:)

Yes your right Peyton Place was indeed the first prime time soap, but Dallas was the first prime time soap that used the cliffhanger after each episode and end of each season.
 

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but Dallas was the first prime time soap that used the cliffhanger after each episode
Peyton Place had them too, but not always as obvious or extreme as the 80s soaps.
end of each season.
The season-finale summaries on Wikipedia are different from the YouTube videos labelled as "season finale episode", so I'm still none the wiser where the seasons begin and where they end.
Not that it matters as I've thoroughly enjoyed every single episode.

But Peyton Place had the spring/summer/autumn/winter seasons:)
 

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Yes, PEYTON PLACE was the first successful nighttime soap in America TV. And DALLAS was the first successful one after PP.

Peyton Place had them too, but not always as obvious or extreme as the 80s soaps.

The season-finale summaries on Wikipedia are different from the YouTube videos labelled as "season finale episode", so I'm still none the wiser where the seasons begin and where they end.
Not that it matters as I've thoroughly enjoyed every single episode.

But Peyton Place had the spring/summer/autumn/winter seasons:)

The change of seasons is a real strength of the PEYTON PLACE TV series (of course, seasons are addressed in the prologue of the 1957 movie, and I think the opening of Metalius' the book) although I haven't seen as much of the series as I'd like. It's an organic thing the show aims for.

Frankly, I always wanted to see more of a change of seasons for the '80s shows, too. Certainly on DYNASTY and FALCON CREST, and to some degree DALLAS. Maybe not every year. (KNOTS of course is southern California, where the change in seasons is nowhere near as obvious as other locations).

Had the '80s nighttime soaps developed the right way (and not fallen apart midway through their runs) seasonal changes -- spring, summer, fall and winter -- would have fit them nicely.
 

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Dynasty needed mist, lots of mist - especially when Alexis was living in the Carrington house.
In fact, so much mist that she felt she was being swallowed up by it. That should have been Dynasty's "Dark Shadows" era.
Oh, yes. It should have been like Norma Desmond carrying a candelabra thru the mansion as it lightninged outside. At least for a few episodes.

Here Alexis is shooting Roger Grimes:

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