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Do you even realize how ridiculous comparing some unwanted kissing and groping that may or may not have occurred and didn't go any further to the terror of what a victim of an actual rapes goes thorough is?

What on earth are you talking about? I didn't make that comparison.
 

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The virtue signalling of Hillary supporters is getting so tiresome.

PLEASE explain to me how you justify Hillary defending a man who raped a 12 year old and put her in a coma. Not only did she defend him but she blamed the rape on the little girl.

How do you justify what Hillary did to Libya?

How do you justify What the Clintons did in Haiti?

How do you justify the Clintons taking shitloads of money from Sharia governments?

How do you justify Hillary blaming Benghazi on a video when she knew that wasn't true?

How do you justify her lying about her emails while under oath? She obviously knew they existed..

She gets caught in lie after lie after lie after lie.. And you all think she is a victim..
In a nutshell. I believe that Trump makes himself an easier target by being so overt in his dehumanizing bullshit, but research into Hillary's past reveals she's far from a saint herself.

Now the political hack commentators like Keith Olbermann and Bill Maher are strongly condemning anyone who isn't voting for Hillary. These are people I once listened to and respected, but I just can't anymore. It's not even because they support Hillary, it's because they tell those of us who don't to "grow up" and to stop using the "false equivalence" argument. Maher was particularly critical of millennials, and said they were lazy and hadn't done their research on Hillary. Well screw you Bill Maher. I have researched her, as have other millennials, and that is precisely why we don't support her. Olbermann has tried to convince Jill Stein to drop out of the race out of fear that she will take votes away from Hillary. Has he stopped to think that progressives voting for Stein wouldn't have necessarily voted for Hillary in the first place? A vote is earned, not guaranteed.

Even Obama has got in on the act, asking men to consider whether sexism has played a role in our opposition to Hillary. Silly me. I thought elections were about voting for policy positions, not genitalia. And if anti-Hillary males are so sexist, why are so many of us eager to vote for Jill Stein? Obama's resorting to gender baiting to prop up Hillary because she was an ally in his hawkish foreign policy and surveillance program.

This is why the establishment sucks. It would almost be worth seeing Trump become president just to give a big middle finger to the political hacks in Washington that push for the status quo.
 
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Hillary loses her cool after heckler calls Bill a ‘rapist’
By Marisa Schultz

November 2, 2016 | 12:23am | UpdatedNovember 2, 2016 | 8:18am

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WASHINGTON – Hillary Clinton raged Tuesday night against a protester at her rally who denounced her husband as a sexual predator.

About three minutes into her 20-minute stump speech, a heckler shouted “Bill Clinton is a rapist!” as he waved a neon green sign declaring the same statement.

Clinton pointed a finger at the protester.

“I am sick and tired of the negative, dark, divisive, dangerous vision and the anger of people who support Donald Trump,” Clinton shouted at her Fort Lauderdale, Fla. rally.

It’s not uncommon for “rapists” protesters to show up at Clinton rallies, but the Democratic nominee offered a rare reaction.

It was her third event that day in Florida and she didn’t take the stage until after 10 pm — well behind the 8:45 pm schedule.

“It is time for us to say no, we are not going backwards, we’re going forward into a brighter future,” a hoarse-voice Clinton added.

Supporters chanted “Hillary, Hillary, Hillary!” to overcome the male heckler. He was eventually escorted out of the rally.

Trump ally, Roger Stone, and conservative radio host Alex Jones are behind the spate of Bill Clinton rape T-shirts and signs. Jones recently announced on his conspiracy-obsessed website infowars.com he’s offering people who get on TV yelling “Bill Clinton is rapist” up to $5,000. Stone is peddling “Clinton Rape” T-shirts online for a sale price of $9.99.
https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.c...-bill-a-rapist/amp/?client=ms-android-verizon
 

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KKK’s official newspaper supports Donald Trump for president

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Among the small number of American newspapers that have embraced Donald Trump’s campaign, there is one, in particular, that stands out.

  • It is called the Crusader — and it is one of the prominent newspapers of the Ku Klux Klan.
  • Under the banner “Make America Great Again,” the paper’s current issue devoted its entire front page to a lengthy defense of Trump’s message — an embrace some have labeled a de facto endorsement.
  • “ ‘Make America Great Again!’ It is a slogan that has been repeatedly used by Donald Trump in his campaign for the presidency,” the Crusader’s Pastor Thomas Robb wrote. “You can see it on the shirts, buttons, posters and ball caps such as the one being worn here by Trump speaking at a recent rally. … But can it happen? Can America really be great again? This is what we will soon find out!”
  • “While Trump wants to make America great again, we have to ask ourselves, ‘What made America great in the first place?’ " the article continues. “The short answer to that is simple. America was great not because of what our forefathers did — but because of who our forefathers were.
  • “America was founded as a White Christian Republic. And as a White Christian Republic it became great.”
  • The publication’s website says that its “number one goal” is to “stop white genocide.”
  • Since the earliest days of his presidential bid, Trump has attracted the support of prominent white nationalists across the country, setting off fears that a dormant fringe faction of the GOP base — one steeped in xenophobic and white supremacist rhetoric — would be folded back into mainstream politics.
  • In the early months, white nationalists said they were reluctant to publicly throw their support behind the controversial billionaire for fear of harming his strengthening campaign. But white nationalists said as Trump became more emboldened, they did too.
  • In January, Jared Taylor — editor of the white nationalist magazine American Renaissance — lent his voice to a robo-call recording urging registered voters in Iowa to back Trump. Those potential voters, Taylor told The Post, are part of a silent majority who are tired of being asked to celebrate diversity but are afraid of being labeled bigots.
  • A month later, Trump was embraced by former KKK grand wizard David Duke, which led to a controversial exchange between CNN’s Jake Tapper and the Republican candidate. Asked by Tapper to “unequivocally condemn” Duke, Trump pleaded ignorance.
  • “Just so you understand, I don’t know anything about David Duke, okay?” Trump said.
  • Tapper pressed him several more times to disavow Duke and the KKK, but Trump again declined.
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OMG @BD Calhoun, you've nailed it. I've spoken to so many voters out here who have basically said the very same thing you' ve just posted. Quite a few are changing their early vote since Comey reopened the e-mail case. This election season has been the most stressful in memory for me, and it can't end soon enough. It seems the corruption and scandals with this couple just never end and at the very least 4 years of this continuing trend is gut wrenching. I wish they would JUST GO AWAY AND STAY AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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That is stupid.. I dont call Carter, Gore, Kerry, Sanders or any other dem big shot to be investigated.. Including the current occupant..
How generous of you.

It has been clear she has been a corrupt, lying, criminal..
Not according to every single investigation she's ever been subjected to. But why let the facts get in the way of your made-up bullsh!t?

Its like the mob.. She just gets away with it..
Right. She's better than Al Capone.

I have no doubt in my sound mind she is a criminal..
I have no doubt in my sound mind that you're insane.
 

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Key model predicts big election win for Clinton
A model that has correctly predicted the winner of every U.S. presidential race since Ronald Reagan in 1980 is forecasting a big victory for Hillary Clinton.

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  • Clinton is expected to get 332 electoral votes, while Trump is predicted to get just 206, according to the Moody's Analytics model, which is based on three economic and three political factors.
  • Overall, the U.S. is growing and that favors Clinton. Most Americans can feel their pocketbooks getting better. Moody's predicts key swing states -- Florida, Ohio, Colorado and Pennsylvania -- all going blue this year.
  • But here's what really tips the model heavily toward Clinton: Cheap gas and President Obama's high approval rating.
  • "Even those who don't have a car typically pass a gas station and see prices dropping or falling of a daily basis," writes Dan White, a senior economist at Moody's, who worked on the model for the 2016 election.
  • Gas prices are down, while American incomes and home prices have been rising. At the end of the day, that means a lot of people are better off than they were a few years ago.
  • The other deciding factor this year is President Obama. Many see Clinton as an extension of President Obama's policies. Right now, that's a good thing. His approval rating has surged this year to 55%.
  • "Historically, no incumbent president since Ronald Reagan in 1988 has had a surge anywhere close to [Obama's] magnitude in their eighth year in office," notes White.
  • The economy and Obama's rising popularity are likely to make the difference to those coveted few undecided voters, according to the Moody's model.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/01/news/economy/hillary-clinton-win-forecast-moodys-analytics/
 
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I mostly agree with this model. However, I think it's debatable that Hillary will win Iowa and Ohio. And highly debatable that Trump win North Carolina.
 
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I think the days immediately after FBI announcing they will continue to investigate Hillary represent the nadir in her support and she will claw back some of those votes before election day. The shift in the polls, including the one giving Trump a 1% lead, is very fluid and it will swing back to some degree by election day. That said, I think the popular vote will be close but the electoral college will give Hillary a significant majority.
 

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The most significant part of that report is this:

Trump ally, Roger Stone, and conservative radio host Alex Jones are behind the spate of Bill Clinton rape T-shirts and signs. Jones recently announced on his conspiracy-obsessed website infowars.com he’s offering people who get on TV yelling “Bill Clinton is rapist” up to $5,000.

These aren't spontaneous protests by concerned individuals but an orchestrated attempt to disrupt Hillary's campaign by offering people financial inducements. Trump supporters will go to any length to distract from just how god-awful their candidate is, including bribing people to protest. If this is how Trump thinks he will make America great again, then God help your country.
 
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