Luke_Krebbs_Ewing
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Well they're wearing similar jeans and belts but that's it.
Ray probably saw Clayton as a Father figure after he came to terms with the death of Jock.
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Did Ray really need to be Jock's son?
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Well they're wearing similar jeans and belts but that's it.
Ray probably saw Clayton as a Father figure after he came to terms with the death of Jock.
LMLDallas78
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Don't forget the hats!
I was only kidding, although judging by this thread and the what we didn't like about Clayton one they did have some similarities in their characteristics.
Jock Ewing Fan
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It would have been interesting if Ray was Clayton's son. It could have led to more storylines
with a change in the dynamics. Ray would have had an increased role in the Business and Personal
power struggles.
DallasFanForever
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Perhaps Jock really didn’t want to know even if he had suspected it Lol!
I can see why Jock would feel better letting the sleeping porcelain dogs lay. This is a whole other discussion but I wonder now how it would’ve gone over in those days when the brothers were all younger, and how Miss Ellie would’ve handled learning the truth about Ray back then.
That’s fair. I guess I’m saying it wouldn’t have bothered me necessarily but I can’t speak for how Ray would feel in that situation. Maybe I would’ve been blinded by all that Ewing money and stature and not been too concerned about a scandal but it was a different time.
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Taylor Bennett Jr.
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Emporia would have been a very conservative place. especially back then, and I’m sure Ray wouldn’t have wanted anyone to think his mother was the type who would have an affair and an illegitimate child.
I had no idea how loathsome Clayton was until that thread, and now I’m coming close to ripping all the Ray Krebbs posters down from my walls as well.
Who’s next? Dr. Danvers? Jordan Lee?? Phyllis the secretary??? Please, no more of these threads!
this is the type of high-level, high-concept graphic design and television artistry you just don’t see anymore these days - a shame!
LMLDallas78
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Aww c'mon they're exciting, you love them really!
I was thinking Theresa and Raoul next?
DallasFanForever
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Oh, I wouldn’t let these threads do that! Keep your Ray posters up. None of these characters were perfect but that’s the fun of discussing it.
Now this would be the unthinkable! I couldn’t imagine turning such a sweet wholesome character into being something unlikable. Nothing would make me take my Phyllis posters down.
Taylor Bennett Jr.
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as exemplary as she seemed, you have to wonder what might be below the surface. There’s something just a bit concerning about someone who can’t boil water. What else can’t she boil? Is she divulging Ewing secrets to Marilee Stone or her secret lover, the dynamic Andy Bradley?
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LMLDallas78
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Don't be too sure, if she worked for Bobby/Ewing Oil she was bound to be flawed.
Maybe that sweet wholesome exterior was a front for someone with deep rooted dark secrets.
Or as JR would say if you can't find any skeletons in her past, put them there!
Taylor Bennett Jr.
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ok, I admit it, I like these threads.
I don’t remember the details, but didn’t Teresa and Raoul and their children figure prominently in the TNT revival? (Can we be sure Ray wasn’t the father?)
I wouldn’t have blamed Teresa for seeking revenge after Jock loudly proclaimed her masterful cooking to have no taste without salt - on more than one occasion! She tones down the spiciness and creativity to appease a conservative American palate and that’s the thanks she gets?
The Southfork fire grows ever more suspicious…
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LMLDallas78
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Oh I'm so pleased. It's good for characters to be turned inside out every now and again. After all no one on Dallas could be that pure.
Well, I've been wanting to suggest that for sometime. He was a regular figure at Southfork, always finding some excuse to pop there anytime of day or night working his way through ghe women.
Infact Ray was always on hand, moreso than members of the family half the time.
I think you're right about TNT Dallas, although my memory hasn't retained a lot of the details (probably protecting my sanity (or not) not so sure about good old Raoul though.
But........ Ray still popped up there though.
DallasFanForever
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I’m no expert on herbal teas but then what the heck did she end up giving Pam?
Isn’t it always?
Taylor Bennett Jr.
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she told Bobby once that she would have invited him over for dinner, but she was such a bad cook that she couldn’t even boil water. As you pointed out above, that was a lie.
What else was the dastardly Phyllis lying about?
DallasFanForever
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Every time I log in nowadays I lose a childhood hero.
She was lying from day one. On her first day, JR asked where Connie was and she said, “Connie is ill today. My name is Phyllis.”
We never saw Connie again.
Seaviewer
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Again, mainly the grey hair. Is that what made the women find him so attractive?
Rove
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You might be confused with the Ramos family who had no connection to Teresa or Raoul. The brilliant writers of TNT Dallas reconned the Ramos family into the Lorimar Dallas storyline. Us smart cookies picked up on that balls-up straight away. But that's another story.
LMLDallas78
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Yes of course that was the story, how my mind has blurred so much of that "Dallas".
I'm obviously in the not so smart cookie club!
He had that rugged cowboy look I guess and was "easily" available (I wanted to say he was on tap!)
Until Ray got with Donna no one else was getting hurt by sleeping with Ray.
Taylor Bennett Jr.
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I’ve always chosen to believe that was Raoul and Teresa and their kids (and possibly Ray’s), with names and backgrounds changed for contractual reasons!
sort of like how Ray would walk into a bar and say “give me a beer” and one would appear immediately, a woman in need could just walk up to the bunkhouse and say “give me a cowboy” and Ray would magically appear, ready to make passionate love at the drop of a hat
oh, it’s the works for sure! After the resounding success of the first three volumes, my agent has fielded dozens of offers for a new installment, not to mention other projects - screenplays, Andy Bradley lunchboxes and overalls for the children, etc.Get ready to write a fourth volume of The under-utilisation of the Dynamic Andy Bradley.
I can't wait to read about all the affairs Theresa had and what Raoul and Phyllis used to get up to at the Ewing condo!
Perhaps most intriguing is an offer to develop a prequel, tentatively named BRADLEY, that, instead of the Ewings. is centered on the dynamic Andy Bradley and his numerous loves and business triumphs.
Imagine, for instance, the Asian Oil doublecross from the perspective of the other Cartel members. Did Marilee turn to Andy for comfort in the wake of Seth’s tragic suicide? Did the lovely Linda (and possibly mistresses Phyllis and Teresa) join in?
the possibilities are endless!
LMLDallas78
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Oh I love those ideas, could be so juicy.
Don't forget Jordan's wife who was Sarah in the early days and not referred to again? So what happened to pregnant Sarah?
As for that beautiful soul Andy Bradley, you must let us into a secret before your BRADLEY fame
who was his Daddy or suspected Daddy?
And who called HIM Daddy or thought he was their Daddy?
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