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Dallas To Get Remastered In HD
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DarkVader
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The "Executive Producer" and "Associate Producer" credits needed to be moved over a bit over to the left to be truly centered. The still image of Southfork they used in this restoration is incorrect. Yes, it's a sloppy job - just as sloppy as Victoria's opening credit sequence beginning with this particular season, but it was an uphill battle for Warners to complete the restoration for the series' last seasons due to the quality of the footage available. The fact that they were able to is a miracle in and of itself - many doubted it could be done. However it doesn't excuse the shoddy work. Zero quality control done here.
Matthew Blaisdel
Telly Talk Star
They didn't remaster the title sequence for seasons 11 onwards, even though many of the actors shots already exist in HD from previous seasons, and for the ones that didn't, they could have created new ones.
But instead they went the lazy way and just upscaled the old SD versions. And even those could have looked WAY better than they do, if they had put them through AI upscaling process, it would have taken them just 2 days longer for 4 title sequences on a mediocre PC. But even that was apparently too much for them. So stupid, because the opening is the very first imprssion that you get, if you look any of those last 4 season episodes - and that impression is just plain awful. And for a first impression there is no second chance. It just shows that they didn't care anymore, the further the restauration process went.
Concentrate only on the upper text lines of both pictures. Executive Producer and Associate Producer. Both these lines are not centered and positioned too far to the right side.
It's millimeters on a mobile phone screen, on the big TV we are clearly talking centimeters here.
Took me some seconds to notice it as well, but once you noticed how not centered the upper line looks, you cannot unsee it anymore and it just looks unprofessional and careless. Two hits on the backspace key could fix that in a few seconds and as a fan, that just makes me sad.
Of course they still have the chance to fix these kind of mistakes,if they would want to. So, let's see how that turns out in future...
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bmasters9
Telly Talk Mega Star
True of any show, past or present-- the opening (title sequence) is the first 30 seconds (or minute, or two) you get to find out what a certain show is about, whether comedy or drama or otherwise.
Knots4ever
Telly Talk Active Member
Hmm I looked at 1 or 2 episodes per season last night and the openings for 13 and 14 look remastered to me rather than just upscaled. The font used is entirely different so unless they upscaled the master version of the openings and then added the credits they definitely worked on these. Weirdly there is an episode still in SD on FreeVee among the season 13 and the difference is incredible.
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Seaviewer
Telly Talk Warrior
Why does remastering have to mean changing?
Rove
Telly Talk Warrior
So true. I cannot think of anything present which has a great opening. Possibly the last great opening was The Big Bang Theory because the opening explains what exactly the show is about.
Knots4ever
Telly Talk Active Member
Well, naturally if you are remastering an opening sequence you put it together from scratch; or if you're lucky and the original one exists on film in good quality you might be able to use that. Credits are added after you've (re-)created the sequence and that's where you run into "problems" with fonts. The originally used fonts simply might not be available (a lot of fonts used in pre-computer times never made it into a digital format) or would need to be licensed at a prohibitive cost. Therefore you match the original font as close as possible. With seasons 1 - 12 there luckily is a near-identical font called Microgramma.
Luke_Krebbs_Ewing
Telly Talk Champion
The only show with a great opening sequence these days is Doctor Who.
Although it's fans are waiting patiently for the Sixtieth Anniversary episodes later this year.
It's quite appropriate with it being Doctor Who because that aired during the 80's when Dallas itself was still a hit. At one point when Doctor Who aired on Wednesday at 7.35pm one of it's final season episodes preceded the opening episode of season twelve of Dallas. I have vivid memories of my two favourite shows airing back to back on that fateful Wednesday night (I have it on VHS somewhere).
Yesterday from the Beatles
Telly Talk Active Member
What? Almost every HBO show has a great opening. Last example here:
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Seaviewer
Telly Talk Warrior
Well, I wouldn't call that remastering, I'd call it recreating at best, remaking at worst.
Knots4ever
Telly Talk Active Member
Well you can't remaster a complete opening sequence. It is only available as seen on TV. If you want it to be in HD you need to remake it from scratch from the source material on film and that naturally means you are recreating it, including overlaying the credits. There is no other way I'm afraid unless you just upscale it but that wouldn't be true HD.
darkshadows38
Telly Talk Star
they should remaster it like Dark Shadows was Remastered minus the episodes that were in awful condition and those are the ones that were lost and the bad quality versions were the only version that still does exist. the ones that look good on those sets look damn good
DarkVader
Telly Talk Active Member
This is correct if the original camera negative for the opening sequence exists. It's really just a matter of scanning that in a higher resolution (e.g.: 4K or 8K) and then adding the titles to the remastered footage. In the case of Seasons 10-14 the show was shot on film but edited on video tape. I believe the problem with those seasons is that once the filmed footage was edited on video tape it was either scrapped or not properly archived.
For some reason Victoria's opening credit sequence never changed. That center shot of her walking towards the camera wearing jeans and a plaid shirt remained the same from seasons 3-10, only the left and right images changed, I wonder why? Hers was the only one.
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Garry
Telly Talk Fan
Season 14 was edited on the old syle film process so a physical 35mm print of that season already existed in the archive. However the opening credits were edited on a video master, just like Seasons 10-13.
Patrick’s shirtless shot remained during that same period (except of course, the season when he was gone). They even brought back his old shots when he returned. I guess the producers felt those two shots were iconic.
darkshadows38
Telly Talk Star
or they were lazy and to save money...
Luke_Krebbs_Ewing
Telly Talk Champion
Well as it was a dream Pam dreamt the opening credits too!
That's why the opening credits returned to being similar to season eight.
Seaviewer
Telly Talk Warrior
Then why call it that? It's misleading.
I can think of a couple of reasons.
Knots4ever
Telly Talk Active Member
Because that is what it's called
There are no valid reasons not to have replaced Victoria's shot in season 10. It's the same shot that was used for several seasons prior and is available on film in sufficiently good quality to meet HD standards. It's clearly shoddy work where the person dealing with season 10 could not be bothered to check as to whether material was available from previous seasons. I suppose that's a reason but it's not a good or valid one.