Rafael De La Fuente Comes Out

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Rafael De La Fuente comes out?
Really?
There are rumors about Elton John too.
Hush...
 

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Oh, btw... happy CSD everyone! :D
 
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I'm so sick of people using "queer" as if it's acceptable; I had to hear this word as an insult growing up, I don't want to hear it continued to be used. I've heard people say "we're taking it back" or "we own it now". If I owned it I'd take it out back, shoot it and bury it.
I heard a gay activist on TV a couple of weeks ago who also said he felt the use of the word was a bad idea, and yet he kept referencing the LGBTQ acronym without irony.
 

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I heard a gay activist on TV a couple of weeks ago who also said he felt the use of the word was a bad idea, and yet he kept referencing the LGBTQ acronym without irony.

I've heard some people say the Q in LGBTQ stands for "questioning". I'm not so sure putting the concept of "questioning" out there is such a good idea: "you're not really gay, you're just "questioning".
 
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I'm so sick of people using "queer" as if it's acceptable; I had to hear this word as an insult growing up, I don't want to hear it continued to be used. I've heard people say "we're taking it back" or "we own it now". If I owned it I'd take it out back, shoot it and bury it.

Same here.
 

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I'm rather sick of people asking me whether I'm gay. Even though I'm very open to people I like, those people are my friends but I dislike to be asked by colleagues or neighbours or friends of friends. Because: why do they care? No one who asked me could have been a potential sex partner. I give them a honest answer nevertheless. But if people in the public eye do come out I actually feel good for them and it's important for younger ones to realize "I'm not alone". When I grew up in the 70's/80's there were no out gays or lesbians (I didn't get the codes from Elton John or Freddie Mercury because at the time of glam rock/pop everyone wore heavy make up). That changed in the 80's with Martina Navratilova and two German TV comedians (Dirk Bach and Hella von Sinnen). On TV Steven Carrington was the only gay character - until Sammy Jo showed up, what a horrible story to "convert" a gay via a blonde vixen. (Kudos to Al Corley for leaving due to that crap). Today there are so many openly gay and lesbian athletes, musicians and actors that some people think it's not as important to come out as it was a few decades before. I disagree. For people in smaller counties it's not the same as for those living in big cities with gay/lesbian communities. People in countries where it's not accepted have internet connections too. And they need the view into another world.

I don't mind the word 'queer' as much as others but I always disliked the German expression 'schwul' for gay. My grandma told me once in her younger days those who knew used the word 'verzaubert' (enchanted) for homosexuality and I think that's much kinder but sadly today considered old-fashioned.

But Rafael De La Fuente and Juan Pablo Di Pace coming out in one week - that's almost too much for my weak heart.:cool:
 
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I am starting to get confused by this...it seems to me only gay men play gay men on TV shows nowadays? Has it really come to that? Do they ask for gay actors to come to the auditions?
Okay so far I have only four examples. Rafael de la Fuente, Anthony Rapp from Star Trek Discovery AND the guy who plays his boyfriend. And one of the gay guys on Modern Family is gay in real life.
Do heteros try stay away from playing gay men?
 

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I am starting to get confused by this...it seems to me only gay men play gay men on TV shows nowadays? Has it really come to that? Do they ask for gay actors to come to the auditions?
Okay so far I have only four examples. Rafael de la Fuente, Anthony Rapp from Star Trek Discovery AND the guy who plays his boyfriend. And one of the gay guys on Modern Family is gay in real life.
Do heteros try stay away from playing gay men?

There are some social justice warriors who insist that only a gay man can realistically portray a gay man. It has come to a point where Darren Criss has said he won't consider playing more gay characters despite finding fame playing a gay character on "Glee" and receiving praise and an Emmy Award for playing another gay character in "The Assassination of Gianni Versace". I realize that a gay actor might be less likely to allow his characterization to descend into stereotype (would an Asian actor have played Mr. Yunioshi in "Breakfast at Tiffany's" as the stereotype portrayed by Mickey Rooney?) but an actor of integrity (gay or straight) should be committed to giving their best performance. Al Corley balked when ABC executives insisted that Steven Carrington "go straight"and asked to be released from his contract rather than play a role that contradicted his principles. Darren Criss and Eric McCormack became allies of the LGBT community after playing gay roles.

On the other hand we have openly gay actors who successfully portray straight characters. I don't recall any SJWs demanding Jim Parsons or Neil Patrick Harris quit their roles so that straight actors can take their place. When it comes to acting, I think talent trumps sexuality.
 
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I am starting to get confused by this...it seems to me only gay men play gay men on TV shows nowadays? Has it really come to that? Do they ask for gay actors to come to the auditions?
Okay so far I have only four examples. Rafael de la Fuente, Anthony Rapp from Star Trek Discovery AND the guy who plays his boyfriend. And one of the gay guys on Modern Family is gay in real life.
Do heteros try stay away from playing gay men?

That´s not exactly true: Ryan Murphy also hires gay actors to play straight roles. The point is the actor has to be gay...or any of the letters in LGTetc.:spinning::spinning::spinning::spinning::spinning::spinning:

On "Glee" half of the actors who played straight characters have also come out of the "locker" (I know, dumb joke...). On "Transparent" I´d say that Judith Light is the only non-gay actress. Also take a look at "Orange Is The New Black" or, well, just wait a couple of years and see how many of the "Game of Thrones" young actors will come out (there are some rumors out there already...hush, hush...). And of course, Chaz Bono will always play guys, especially lumberjacks. :re:

Anyway, I do remember some actors who played gays and are NOT gay: Jeff Perry on "Scandal" (and also, spoiler alert,
Jack Coleman in a couple of episodes...yes, THAT one!)
I don´t know if the gay guys from "How to Get Away with Murder" are gay, but they are quite believable to be honest. Most actors say that audiences should not know anything about their private lives so they would be able to do a better job, and I sort of agree. :think:
 

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some social justice warriors who insist that only a gay man can realistically portray a gay man.
I've also heard the same argument but then I'm reminded how for many years gay men played straight roles. Think Rock Hudson. You are right when you say this:
When it comes to acting, I think talent trumps sexuality.
I've always believed in employing the best person for the job.
 

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That´s not exactly true: Ryan Murphy also hires gay actors to play straight roles. The point is the actor has to be gay...or any of the letters in LGTetc.:spinning::spinning::spinning::spinning::spinning::spinning:

On "Glee" half of the actors who played straight characters have also come out of the "locker" (I know, dumb joke...). On "Transparent" I´d say that Judith Light is the only non-gay actress. Also take a look at "Orange Is The New Black" or, well, just wait a couple of years and see how many of the "Game of Thrones" young actors will come out (there are some rumors out there already...hush, hush...). And of course, Chaz Bono will always play guys, especially lumberjacks. :re:

Anyway, I do remember some actors who played gays and are NOT gay: Jeff Perry on "Scandal" (and also, spoiler alert,
Jack Coleman in a couple of episodes...yes, THAT one!)
I don´t know if the gay guys from "How to Get Away with Murder" are gay, but they are quite believable to be honest. Most actors say that audiences should not know anything about their private lives so they would be able to do a better job, and I sort of agree. :think:

I agree with your comment about knowing very little about the actors' private lives. Some of the performances I've enjoyed the most are when I was able to focus solely on the character and not have any knowledge of the actor get in the way. Someone commented on the trailer for the movie about Fred Rogers saying they would have preferred an unknown in the role because they were too conscious of it being Tom Hanks as Mr. Rogers.

On the other hand, I am in awe when an actor can completely immerse them self in a role. I just watched the finale of "Big Little Lies" and I had to remind myself after that it was Laura Dern I was watching; her character was so different from the image I have of her, she somehow even looked different (maybe it was her facial expressions?).
 

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