What's The Real Reason Why People Don't Like Clayton?

[Billy Wall]

Again, Clayton going after his son's ex was a bad look, but as far as that other stuff, OK, he wasn't perfect. But as usual, JR can somehow corrupt good people.

Clayton was out of place punching JR at his wedding, but let's not act as if JR didn't have it coming. He did freeze his oil not too long before that.

Yes, he probably should have gracefully declined co-ownership of Southfork, but that was Miss Ellie's decision. You want to get mad at someone, get mad at Miss Ellie.

And no, Clayton didn't endanger everyone by not telling them about his sister Jessica. He didn't know she was THAT looney. Plus, JR had an hand in that situation when he and Jessica were plotting to stop the wedding. Unlike JR, who have gotten people killed and could have gotten his son and wife killed dealing with BD Calhoun.

And what exactly made Jock a tougher man than Clayton?

 

[LMLDallas78]

So Ellie, Pam and Clayton are the shits of the family. Fascinating.

Oh no definitely not Miss Ellie

 

[Taylor Bennett Jr.]

So Ellie, Pam and Clayton are the shits of the family. Fascinating.

yep, totally! But their dastardliness paled in comparison to the fearsome Teresa

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

So Ellie, Pam and Clayton are the shits of the family. Fascinating.

That seems an overstatement. I think the point is that Miss Ellie, Pam and Clayton all did things that were questionable
with regard what was right, and that they are perhaps not held accountable for those things as much as the other characters.

Again, Clayton going after his son's ex was a bad look, but as far as that other stuff, OK, he wasn't perfect. But as usual, JR can somehow corrupt good people.

Clayton was out of place punching JR at his wedding, but let's not act as if JR didn't have it coming. He did freeze his oil not too long before that.

Yes, he probably should have gracefully declined co-ownership of Southfork, but that was Miss Ellie's decision. You want to get mad at someone, get mad at Miss Ellie.

And no, Clayton didn't endanger everyone by not telling them about his sister Jessica. He didn't know she was THAT looney. Plus, JR had an hand in that situation when he and Jessica were plotting to stop the wedding. Unlike JR, who have gotten people killed and could have gotten his son and wife killed dealing with BD Calhoun.

And what exactly made Jock a tougher man than Clayton?

Your observations are interesting, can't say that I agree though.
Just because JR had misdeeds, it does not excuse Clayton, or anyone else for their choices.
Clayton had agitated JR which was why he froze the oil in the first place
Clayton did indeed know his sister had issues
Never compared the toughness of the two. It might be more accurate to say that the viewer knows more about Jock's past than Clayton's.
Miss Ellie was indeed disrespectful of Jock and his heirs by giving half of SF to Clayton.
If Miss Ellie predeceased Clayton, Jock's heirs would have no claim to the property

Maybe we just have to agree to disagree.

Keep posting, I like your posts

 

[Richard Channing]

A misguided sense of loyalty to Jock Ewing.

I still reckon it's this. Clayton's minor sins pale in comparison to those of JR's and Jock's, and aren't particularly good reasons not to like the guy.

 

[Willie Oleson]

they should have paired Clayton with Lucy instead of Miss Ellie

I feel the Sue Ellen-Clayton-Miss Ellie soap triangle was nipped in the bud. Not that I expected Sue Ellen and Miss Ellie to do a catfight in the swimming pool but it could have been much more than what we got.

 

[Seaviewer]

Again, Clayton going after his son's ex was a bad look,

I don't think I'd characterise it as "going after". He seemed to have genuine emotion about her - or at least thought he did.

 

[Laurie Marr]

Poor ol’ Clayton seems to be the focus of all kinds of projection in some of these posts. My major gripe is that the character was under developed. He really didn’t do much after he sold his main business interests and The Southern Cross. For years he lumbered dutifully behind Miss Ellie from porch to house, living room to dining room, and elevator to table when dining a deux at the Oil Baron’s. Keel had acting chops but they were rarely exercised.

 

[Payton Cross]

I've never really had the feeling that people didn't like Clayton, I certainly always liked Clayton, he was a completely different man then Jock, but his honesty and more down to earth personality has always appealed to me about Clayton.

 

[Taylor Bennett Jr.]

I feel the Sue Ellen-Clayton-Miss Ellie soap triangle was nipped in the bud. Not that I expected Sue Ellen and Miss Ellie to do a catfight in the swimming pool but it could have been much more than what we got.

and if not that, then Rebecca-Clayton-Ellie. Did Clayton even tell Miss Ellie at all that he had once had romantic feelings for Sue Ellen? I can’t remember… I think we may have seen Rebecca look a bit hurt that Clayton was with Ellie, but nothing beyond that.

 

[Brian Kinney]

Did Clayton even tell Miss Ellie at all that he had once had romantic feelings for Sue Ellen?

J.R. told that in a scene with Miss Ellie and Sue Ellen when he ranted about the Farlows, even thought it might have been pure speculation at that point. But Miss Ellie was aware.

 

[LMLDallas78]

J.R. told that in a scene with Miss Ellie and Sue Ellen when he ranted about the Farlows, even thought it might have been pure speculation at that point. But Miss Ellie was aware.

Miss Ellie asked Clayton outright after witnessing how close they were (once they made up after Clayton was disappointed in Sue Ellen when she asked him to help JR).

Clayton had previously told Miss Ellie when he ran into her he had feelings for someone and had gone away to clear his head.

Miss Ellie asked Clayton when they were out for dinner if the woman he had feelings for was Sue Ellen. He admitted it was and reassured her it was over now and that nothing ever happened between them. He said he had tried to tell Sue Ellen how he felt but couldn't get through to her!

During the Holly Harwood fiasco Sue Ellen ended up in Clayton's hotel room drunk where she spent the night and offered herself to Clayton. Clayton didn't tell Miss Ellie until she turned up the next morning to find Sue Ellen there.

Miss Ellie overheard Clayton and JR arguing and had to be split up by Bobby,
JR said, "you've got a lot of gall, you're in love with my wife, you're courting my mother" when Clayton warned he would protect Sue Ellen against JR.

Crikey it was all going on! I hadn't realised how much until I was writing it.

 

[Brian Kinney]

Thanks for recapping @LMLDallas78, wow that's as if it aired yesterday!

 

[LMLDallas78]

Thanks for recapping @LMLDallas78, wow that's as if it aired yesterday!

You're welcome!

Mind you, Clayton never told Miss Ellie he was ready to propose to Sue Ellen, even buying a ring for her.
He kept that bit a secret!

 

[Brian Kinney]

Yes but why should he tell that to anyone except a therapist?

 

[LMLDallas78]

Yes but why should he tell that to anyone except a therapist?

I agree! But then he set his sights on Miss Ellie.
I wonder if he gave her the engagement ring he bought for Sue Ellen.

 

[Taylor Bennett Jr.]

Yes but why should he tell that to anyone except a therapist?

imagine Dr. Ellby having to keep that one from Sue Ellen..

 

[Billy Wall]

I agree! But then he set his sights on Miss Ellie.
I wonder if he gave her the engagement ring he bought for Sue Ellen.

That was actually a good Clayton scene. Clayton taking the drink from Miss Ellie and handing it to JR so he could put the ring on her finger was classic. Lol

 

[LMLDallas78]

That was actually a good Clayton scene. Clayton taking the drink from Miss Ellie and handing it to JR so he could put the ring on her finger was classic. Lol

Oh yes classic!

Not good Clayton if he used the ring he had for Sue Ellen........damn cheeky Clayton!

 

[DallasFanForever]

Not good Clayton if he used the ring he had for Sue Ellen........damn cheeky Clayton!

Maybe times were getting tough for him and he was trying to save a buck. I won’t begrudge him that.