Will Smith punches Chris Rock at the Oscars?

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You don't believe any black men are saying that? Once again, you've caught me in a lie.
Name one black man who has said this.

I don't believe it because domineering black women controlling their husbands is a racist trope used mainly by white people.
 

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There is no mention of banning books with alternative lifestyle themes.
There was no mention of banning Dr Seuss at the Oscars but you chose to bring that into the conversation but object when I mention other books that have been banned.

Having a different point of view does not make one an extremist.
But you call opinions you don't agree with because you consider them to be left wing to be extreme. (Bold added by me to highlight relevant part of quote.)

The actors of a previous era served their country with honor in WW2, and didn't participate in divisive woke political activities
that divide people while vilifying those people who do not support the extreme leftist agendas that these overrated, overpaid, ignorant,
usually poorly educated entertainers try to forcefeed to the populace.
 

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The black community in America being a matriarchy is just a fact. It's just reality. It's not a "trope" made up by white people -- unless that white person is Lyndon Johnson.

It probably is his fault.
 
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You seem to call anyone who doesn't agree with you some kind of ist.
Sounds self-righteous, arrogant, obnoxious and intolerant
Hollywood's politics ARE EXTREME LEFT to the point where actors who do not share that point of view fear
losing work if they do not adhere to that ideology

My quotes about Dr Seuss (which were supported by numerous sources) were partially in response to previous posts about the behavior and ideology of the Actors
The fact that you continually respond in a hostile confrontational manner does not validate any of your points, and shows intolerance
It is sad when someone needs to resort to name calling, and bullying,
However, I will NEVER stop expressing my point of view
 

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Hollywood's politics ARE EXTREME LEFT to the point where actors who do not share that point of view fear
losing work if they do not adhere to that ideology

Although I myself don't tend to view the woketivists as "far left", even though the rightwingers (and even some of the wokesters themselves) call them that.

If you look at who the woke folks support politically, it's actually establishment Democrats (and not the genuine lefties like Bernie Sanders). And the establishment Democrats are actually center-right (in terms of actual policy).
 

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The black community in America being a matriarchy is just a fact. It's just reality. It's not a "trope" made up by white people -- unless that white person is Lyndon Johnson.

It probably is his fault.
The racist trope is that black women are domineering and control their husbands.

The so called black matriarchy is a concept invented by white people who incorrectly believed that most black families had absent fathers. It is also based on a racist trope because the reality was that most black families were headed by a mother and a father.

Black people do not need white people to tell us what we are.
 

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Black people do not need white people to tell us what we are.

Are you part of the black community in America?

You seem to call anyone who doesn't agree with you some kind of ist.
Sounds self-righteous, arrogant, obnoxious and intolerant

It is sad when someone needs to resort to name calling, and bullying,
However, I will NEVER stop expressing my point of view

But that's just AC.
 

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You seem to call anyone who doesn't agree with you some kind of ist.
Sounds self-righteous, arrogant, obnoxious and intolerant
Hollywood's politics ARE EXTREME LEFT to the point where actors who do not share that point of view fear
losing work if they do not adhere to that ideology

My quotes about Dr Seuss (which were supported by numerous sources) were partially in response to previous posts about the behavior and ideology of the Actors
The fact that you continually respond in a hostile confrontational manner does not validate any of your points, and shows intolerance
It is sad when someone needs to resort to name calling, and bullying,
However, I will NEVER stop expressing my point of view
Political opinions are a spectrum from left to right. In my opinion, racial, gender and sexual orientation tolerance is not a left of right issue, it's a human rights issue. If someone thinks it's an extreme left opinion then that is only true if they are making that judgement from an extreme right wing position.

Using facts to challenging some of the stuff you are claiming is not bullying. I'm not asking you to stop expressing your point of view but if they can't be back up with facts then expect those views to be challenged.
 

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does not excuse such behaviors, and others have not only the right,
but also an obligation to point that out

Yes, but he's just always been that way. It won't change, whether it's pointed out or not. :lol:

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Using facts to challenging some of the stuff you are claiming is not bullying. I'm not asking you to stop expressing your point of view but if they can't be back up with facts then expect those views to be challenged.

That's the thing though ... you're the only one who ever has the facts on his side... I mean, how can anybody compete with that??
 
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Are you part of the black community in America?
No, but many of my family are.

What part of the black community in America do you represent as you seem to think you are an expert in how it is constructed?

excuse such behaviors
Exactly what behaviours are you objecting to? Having your opinion challenged? Isn't that part of what online forums are for?

And please explain why you think you have been bullied because I have done no such thing.
 

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Political opinions are a spectrum from left to right. In my opinion, racial, gender and sexual orientation tolerance is not a left of right issue, it's a human rights issue. If someone thinks it's an extreme left opinion then that is only true if they are making that judgement from an extreme right wing position.

Using facts to challenging some of the stuff you are claiming is not bullying. I'm not asking you to stop expressing your point of view but if they can't be back up with facts then expect those views to be challenged.
I did back it up with facts and sources (Again the Dr Seuss facts were extensively sourced)
How dare you state that, when you know it isn't true. I constantly supply links, sources and the shared observations
of the news media (Not that they are always right)
I guess it fits a narrative when people can't make a point in a reasoned debate
Reading comprehension needs to be taught in the schools

You have chosen to make gender race and sexual orientation a left or right issue, by not respecting other opinions

Again you use a logical fallacy
Anyone of any ideology can judge whether an opinion is extreme
By your (lack of) logic, you can not identify the far right since you might be categorized as far left.
I do not need to justify my politics to you or anyone else, but I hold no opinion that can be considered extreme,the people who know would certainly agree
(because we talk openly, honestly and respectfully) and since you do not know me, your
opinion about my politics has no basis.

You have a right to your opinion, but no right to bully and harangue others
 

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No, but many of my family are.

So you're not.

What part of the black community in America do you represent as you seem to think you are an expert in how it is constructed?

But I was quoting black men, not myself.

And please explain why you think you have been bullied because I have done no such thing.

Oh, certainly no one could ever accuse you of that...

You have chosen to make gender race and sexual orientation a left or right issue, by not respecting other opinions

Again you use a logical fallacy

Again, he just does that.
 

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No, but many of my family are.

What part of the black community in America do you represent as you seem to think you are an expert in how it is constructed?


Exactly what behaviours are you objecting to? Having your opinion challenged? Isn't that part of what online forums are for?

And please explain why you think you have been bullied because I have done no such thing.
Yes you have been bullying. Your responses sound hostile, confrontational and self righteous, you make unsupported assumptions about my character and my beliefs,
by immediately categorizing me as an extremist, simply because I don't agree.
 

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Yes you have been bullying. Your responses sound hostile, confrontational and self righteous, you make unsupported assumptions about my character and my beliefs,
by immediately categorizing me as an extremist, simply because I don't agree.

But if you continue to engage with him -- as I do -- that will always be his response.

Actually, it's kind of fun. If you're in the right mood.
 
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